fixed it, was actually the open object handler not comparing to null explicitly so zero was considered no ID at all

ayanova/src/api/open-object-handler.js

@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ export default {
     //expects extra data (tid) to be { type: [AYATYPE], id: [RECORDID] }
     //NOTE: for new objects all edit pages assume record ID 0 means create rather than open
 
-    if (tid.type && tid.id) {
+    if (tid.type && tid.id != null) {
       switch (tid.type) {
         case ayatype.Widget:
           vm.$router.push({

ayanova/src/components/pick-list.vue

@@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ export default {
     // debugger;
     //TODO: this may be needed to force new records to have a zero in their no selection valid fields rather than null
     // however it could overwrite a valid value maybe so needs further testing
-    //this.$emit("input", 0);
+    //
 
     //set initial value in control if selected
     if (vm.value != null && vm.value != 0) {
@@ -95,7 +95,7 @@ export default {
       // console.log("STUB: created: has value, sb fetched");
       var urlParams = "?ayaType=" + vm.ayaType + "&preId=" + vm.value;
       vm.getList(urlParams);
-    } 
+    }
   },
   data() {
     return {