diff --git a/Controllers/OpsController.cs b/Controllers/OpsController.cs
index 27dfc96..a77be77 100644
--- a/Controllers/OpsController.cs
+++ b/Controllers/OpsController.cs
@@ -39,6 +39,7 @@ namespace rockfishCore.Controllers
                         break;
                     case "AyaNovaSite":
                         Ret.Status = OpsDiagnostics.CheckWebsite("https://www.ayanova.com/", "Ground Zero Tech-Works Inc.");
+                        bool bssl = OpsDiagnostics.IsSSLCertAboutToExpire("https://www.ayanova.com");
                         break;
                     case "APISite":
                         Ret.Status = OpsDiagnostics.CheckWebsite("https://api.ayanova.com/", "WorkorderTypes Enumeration");
@@ -56,7 +57,7 @@ namespace rockfishCore.Controllers
                         Ret.Status = OpsDiagnostics.CheckWebsite("http://svn.ayanova.com:3343/csvn/login/auth", "Subversion Edge");
                         break;
                     case "Forum":
-                        Ret.Status = OpsDiagnostics.CheckWebsite("http://forum.ayanova.com/", "AyaNova support resources");
+                        Ret.Status = OpsDiagnostics.CheckWebsite("http://forum.ayanova.com/", "AyaNova Known Issues & Updates");
                         break;
                     case "DevOps":
                         Ret.Status = OpsDiagnostics.CheckWebsite("https://test.helloayanova.com/api/v8/", "AyaNova server");
diff --git a/util/OpsDiagnostics.cs b/util/OpsDiagnostics.cs
index c8cb9fd..2b771fd 100644
--- a/util/OpsDiagnostics.cs
+++ b/util/OpsDiagnostics.cs
@@ -4,6 +4,10 @@ using System.Linq;
 using System.Net.Http;
 using Amazon.S3;
 
+//for ssl certs
+using System.Security.Cryptography.X509Certificates;
+using System.Threading.Tasks;
+
 namespace rockfishCore.Util
 {
     public static class OpsDiagnostics
@@ -36,6 +40,49 @@ namespace rockfishCore.Util
         }
 
 
+        /// <summary>
+        /// check if an ssl cert is within 10 days of expiry
+        /// </summary>
+        /// <param name="url"></param>
+        /// <returns></returns>
+        public static bool IsSSLCertAboutToExpire(string url)
+        {
+            var expires = GetServerCertificateExpiryAsync(url).Result;
+            //In 10 days will we be past the expiry date
+            var deadline = DateTime.Now.AddDays(10);
+            if (expires < deadline)
+            {
+                return true;
+            }
+
+            return false;
+        }
+
+
+
+        static async Task<DateTime> GetServerCertificateExpiryAsync(string url)
+        {
+            DateTime ret = DateTime.MinValue;
+            var httpClientHandler = new HttpClientHandler
+            {
+                ServerCertificateCustomValidationCallback = (_, cert, __, ___) =>
+                {
+                    ret = cert.NotAfter;
+                    return true;
+                }
+            };
+
+            var httpClient = new HttpClient(httpClientHandler);
+            await httpClient.SendAsync(new HttpRequestMessage(HttpMethod.Head, url));
+
+            return ret;
+        }
+
+
+
+
+
+
         public static List<string> GetFileListFromSpacesBackupStorage()
         {
             AmazonS3Config ClientConfig = new AmazonS3Config();
diff --git a/util/RfMail.cs b/util/RfMail.cs
index 51e2897..b976c40 100644
--- a/util/RfMail.cs
+++ b/util/RfMail.cs
@@ -766,6 +766,9 @@ namespace rockfishCore.Util
             {
                 // Accept all SSL certificates
                 client.ServerCertificateValidationCallback = (s, c, h, e) => true;
+                //case 3667 fix for intermittent cert issue hopefully
+                //https://github.com/jstedfast/MailKit/issues/515#issuecomment-439438242
+                client.CheckCertificateRevocation = false;
                 //client.Connect(MAIL_IMAP_ADDRESS, MAIL_IMAP_PORT, true);
                 if (mirrorServer)
                     client.Connect(MAIL_MIRROR_IMAP_ADDRESS, MAIL_IMAP_PORT);