devdocs/pricing.md

@@ -106,6 +106,19 @@ I think the other tier is more comparable at 169/mo or 129/mo yearly 1 to 5 user
 
 Bottom line $50.00/monthly per user
 
+#### Kickserv
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+Weird one, they also sell credit cards oddly, so must be a kickback extra revenu thing, they all advertise the cashback benefits that scale with the level of license, fucking oddball shit.
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+They have 6 tiers with 3 lower ones with less features and user count and 3 larger ones with mroe features and bigger user count.  problem with that is some smaller shops need the bigger features so I really think sticking with all features to all users without any bullshit is going to be easier for people to buy into and simpler to market with less fuckery.
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+Unlimited users is 299/mo which is 9/mo per user for a 30 count of users but could go unlimited.  I guess we could offer an unlimited if we just threw in the price of a high end server and said fuck it do what you want.
+Their 20 user comparable is$199.00/mo or again 10 bucks a month with a 20% discount for yearly, Im' seeing this number a lot but only when it's a significant number of users
+10 users is 12 bucks per user per month
+5 users is 12 bucks per user per month, I really don't know what they are thinking
+up to 2 users is free but only if hyou sign up for their payment / credit card system which is fucking weird again so a kickback scheme of some kind tha tmust be pretty prefitable to be worth it
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+Discount 20% for yearly payment
 
 ### License types and programs we will offer
 
@@ -146,6 +159,7 @@ We need a formal declaration of how to switch from one to the other models.
 ### Pricing for v8
 
 #### PERPETUAL
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 IDEA: figure out average license cost over all sizes of existing license sales, factor _that_ with the 19.4% inflation figure Joyce determined before and make that the average license price??
 For active subscribers the average price paid for licenses was 121.25 so with inflation of 19.4 that would be 144.78.
 Tech counts by level is single=30 $4,770.00 total sales, 5=85 $11,815.00 total sales, 10=110 $13,090.00 total sales, 15=15 $1650.00 total sales, 20=100 $9,900.00 total sales
@@ -185,6 +199,13 @@ So it's clear looking over things that there's a cost for a droplet and adding x
 
 so pricing should be the highest normal droplet we can use
 
+##### Add-ons upgrades
+
+- STORAGE: So we assume a cheap ass droplet and offer add-on's like more storage attachment space for XX / mo which is really just the digitalocean pricing plus a premium overhead for contingencies if they want  it
+- RAM / CPU: maybe we offer basic server but they can upgrade to levels for additional per month
+- Anything we get billed extra for, as it stands we don't care how powerful they need, ayanova supports it, but we don't pay for it, they do.
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+
 
 #### New idea perpetual vs subscription
 

devdocs/todo.txt

@@ -33,6 +33,7 @@ todo: if SAAS needs to do some things differently:
 	SERVER - hide any info about the droplet technical stuff like ram and ops stuff, we don't want them to have an idea how much memory they can have, or do we?
 		maybe it's a plust because we can say you get a maximum storage for attachments of XXGb based on droplet size and it's an add-on to go with a bigger server??
 		Because some people need it and will pay for it if it's offered.
+	SERVER - how to cap bandwidth, storage, whatever we get billed extra for from d.o.
 
 
 
@@ -70,13 +71,18 @@ todo: SAAS different license checking method to ensure only *we* are hosting it
 	Try it on a phone, it looks shitty on my phone the images are way too small
 	I need to rethink the website images
 	also it needs a summarizing paragraph at the top with links not just jump right into features
+	So many competitors are selling credit cards, payment processing all manner of weird shit I guess for extra revenue, maybe people see that and go wtf, couldn't hurt to say something alluding to that
+	Service management software. (no credit cards or other funkiness) we sell software not credit cards or whatever sounds good
 	Images need to be clickable to zoom in on them figure out how to do that hopefully bootstrap has built in thing
 	Needing pricing and plans to be broken out by type maybe with a calculator to figure price
 	NOTE: for the new website when marketing the plans Subscription vs perpetual etc there is a lot of useful ideas in the links I've been using for pricing to get some text content for the pages to help people choose.
 	i.e. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/basic-differences-between-saas-subscription-perpetual-frederic-hanika
 	"What other reasons would a customer have to use SaaS or ask for a subscription instead of a perpetual license? Well, a very often-observed point is frustration with internal IT that has very long delivery cycles and are usually themselves very restricted by internal budgets and, hence, cannot deliver new functionality short term. Another large point in favor of a subscription contract from the customer perspective often is to avoid lengthy capital expenditure approval processes. Subscriptions can be and hence usually are priced to fit into the budgets of departments, which means the decisions can be made there and don’t need to be funneled into complicated corporate approval processes.
 	How does this impact the software vendor on the other side? A shift in buying power from central buyers to more departmental buyers, the need for more business and solution oriented sales approaches and usually much shorter sales cycles."
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+	Look at competitors how they list features and what is first etc, here's some:
+		https://www.housecallpro.com/pricing/
+		https://getjobber.com/pricing/
+		https://aifieldmanagement.com/plans-pricing/ (for what it's worth, veyr confusing site)
 
 - SHAREIT product codes once have pricing figured out fully and agreed on by joyce