diff --git a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/PMController.cs b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/PMController.cs
index 148d7d66..f66768cc 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/PMController.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/PMController.cs
@@ -3,7 +3,6 @@ using Microsoft.AspNetCore.Http;
 using Microsoft.AspNetCore.Mvc;
 using Microsoft.AspNetCore.Routing;
 using Microsoft.AspNetCore.Authorization;
-using Microsoft.AspNetCore.JsonPatch;
 using Microsoft.EntityFrameworkCore;
 using Microsoft.Extensions.Logging;
 using AyaNova.Models;
@@ -115,59 +114,19 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
 
 
 
-        /// <summary>
-        /// Patch (update) PM
-        /// </summary>
-        /// <param name="id"></param>
-        /// <param name="concurrencyToken"></param>
-        /// <param name="objectPatch"></param>
-        /// <returns></returns>
-        [HttpPatch("{id}/{concurrencyToken}")]
-        public async Task<IActionResult> PatchPM([FromRoute] long id, [FromRoute] uint concurrencyToken, [FromBody]JsonPatchDocument<PM> objectPatch)
-        {
-            //https://dotnetcoretutorials.com/2017/11/29/json-patch-asp-net-core/
 
-            if (!serverState.IsOpen)
-                return StatusCode(503, new ApiErrorResponse(serverState.ApiErrorCode, null, serverState.Reason));
-
-            if (!ModelState.IsValid)
-                return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(ModelState));
-
-            //Instantiate the business object handler
-            PMBiz biz = PMBiz.GetBiz(ct, HttpContext);
-
-            var o = await biz.GetAsync(id, false);
-            if (o == null)
-                return NotFound(new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.NOT_FOUND));
-
-            if (!Authorized.HasModifyRole(HttpContext.Items, biz.BizType))
-                return StatusCode(403, new ApiNotAuthorizedResponse());
-
-            try
-            {
-                //patch and validate
-                if (!await biz.PatchAsync(o, objectPatch, concurrencyToken))
-                    return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(biz.Errors));
-            }
-            catch (DbUpdateConcurrencyException)
-            {
-                if (!await biz.ExistsAsync(id))
-                    return NotFound(new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.NOT_FOUND));
-                else
-                    return StatusCode(409, new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.CONCURRENCY_CONFLICT));
-            }
-            return Ok(ApiOkResponse.Response(new { ConcurrencyToken = o.ConcurrencyToken }, true));
-        }
 
 
         /// <summary>
         /// Post PM
         /// </summary>
-        /// <param name="inObj"></param>
+        /// <param name="pmTemplateId"></param>
+        /// <param name="customerId"></param>
+        /// <param name="serial">force a workorder number, leave null to autogenerate the next one in sequence (mostly used for import)</param>
         /// <param name="apiVersion">Automatically filled from route path, no need to specify in body</param>
-        /// <returns></returns>
-        [HttpPost]
-        public async Task<IActionResult> PostPM([FromBody] PM inObj, ApiVersion apiVersion)
+        /// <returns>A created workorder ready to fill out</returns>
+        [HttpPost("Create")]
+        public async Task<IActionResult> PostPM([FromQuery] long? pmTemplateId, long? customerId, uint? serial, ApiVersion apiVersion)
         {
             if (!serverState.IsOpen)
                 return StatusCode(503, new ApiErrorResponse(serverState.ApiErrorCode, null, serverState.Reason));
@@ -183,7 +142,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
                 return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(ModelState));
 
             //Create and validate
-            PM o = await biz.CreateAsync(inObj);
+            PM o = await biz.CreateAsync(pmTemplateId,customerId, serial);
             if (o == null)
                 return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(biz.Errors));
             else
diff --git a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/QuoteController.cs b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/QuoteController.cs
index bb3536c8..44088902 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/QuoteController.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/QuoteController.cs
@@ -3,7 +3,6 @@ using Microsoft.AspNetCore.Http;
 using Microsoft.AspNetCore.Mvc;
 using Microsoft.AspNetCore.Routing;
 using Microsoft.AspNetCore.Authorization;
-using Microsoft.AspNetCore.JsonPatch;
 using Microsoft.EntityFrameworkCore;
 using Microsoft.Extensions.Logging;
 using AyaNova.Models;
@@ -115,59 +114,19 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
 
 
 
-        /// <summary>
-        /// Patch (update) Quote
-        /// </summary>
-        /// <param name="id"></param>
-        /// <param name="concurrencyToken"></param>
-        /// <param name="objectPatch"></param>
-        /// <returns></returns>
-        [HttpPatch("{id}/{concurrencyToken}")]
-        public async Task<IActionResult> PatchQuote([FromRoute] long id, [FromRoute] uint concurrencyToken, [FromBody]JsonPatchDocument<Quote> objectPatch)
-        {
-            //https://dotnetcoretutorials.com/2017/11/29/json-patch-asp-net-core/
 
-            if (!serverState.IsOpen)
-                return StatusCode(503, new ApiErrorResponse(serverState.ApiErrorCode, null, serverState.Reason));
-
-            if (!ModelState.IsValid)
-                return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(ModelState));
-
-            //Instantiate the business object handler
-            QuoteBiz biz = QuoteBiz.GetBiz(ct, HttpContext);
-
-            var o = await biz.GetAsync(id, false);
-            if (o == null)
-                return NotFound(new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.NOT_FOUND));
-
-            if (!Authorized.HasModifyRole(HttpContext.Items, biz.BizType))
-                return StatusCode(403, new ApiNotAuthorizedResponse());
-
-            try
-            {
-                //patch and validate
-                if (!await biz.PatchAsync(o, objectPatch, concurrencyToken))
-                    return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(biz.Errors));
-            }
-            catch (DbUpdateConcurrencyException)
-            {
-                if (!await biz.ExistsAsync(id))
-                    return NotFound(new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.NOT_FOUND));
-                else
-                    return StatusCode(409, new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.CONCURRENCY_CONFLICT));
-            }
-            return Ok(ApiOkResponse.Response(new { ConcurrencyToken = o.ConcurrencyToken }, true));
-        }
 
 
         /// <summary>
         /// Post Quote
         /// </summary>
-        /// <param name="inObj"></param>
+        /// <param name="quoteTemplateId"></param>
+        /// <param name="customerId"></param>
+        /// <param name="serial">force a workorder number, leave null to autogenerate the next one in sequence (mostly used for import)</param>
         /// <param name="apiVersion">Automatically filled from route path, no need to specify in body</param>
-        /// <returns></returns>
-        [HttpPost]
-        public async Task<IActionResult> PostQuote([FromBody] Quote inObj, ApiVersion apiVersion)
+        /// <returns>A created workorder ready to fill out</returns>
+        [HttpPost("Create")]
+        public async Task<IActionResult> PostQuote([FromQuery] long? quoteTemplateId, long? customerId, uint? serial, ApiVersion apiVersion)
         {
             if (!serverState.IsOpen)
                 return StatusCode(503, new ApiErrorResponse(serverState.ApiErrorCode, null, serverState.Reason));
@@ -183,7 +142,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
                 return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(ModelState));
 
             //Create and validate
-            Quote o = await biz.CreateAsync(inObj);
+            Quote o = await biz.CreateAsync(quoteTemplateId,customerId, serial);
             if (o == null)
                 return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(biz.Errors));
             else
diff --git a/server/AyaNova/biz/PMBiz.cs b/server/AyaNova/biz/PMBiz.cs
index 39af7dea..605beb79 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/biz/PMBiz.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/biz/PMBiz.cs
@@ -10,6 +10,8 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
 
     internal class PMBiz : BizObject, ISearchAbleObject
     {
+        //Feature specific roles
+        internal static AuthorizationRoles RolesAllowedToChangeSerial = AuthorizationRoles.BizAdminFull | AuthorizationRoles.DispatchFull | AuthorizationRoles.AccountingFull;
 
         internal PMBiz(AyContext dbcontext, long currentUserId, long userTranslationId, AuthorizationRoles UserRoles)
         {
@@ -60,28 +62,41 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
         //CREATE   
 
         //Called from route and also seeder
-        internal async Task<PM> CreateAsync(PM inObj)
+        internal async Task<PM> CreateAsync(long? workorderTemplateId, long? customerId, uint? serial)
         {
-            await ValidateAsync(inObj, null);
-            if (HasErrors)
-                return null;
-            else
+            //Create and save to db a new workorder and return it
+            //NOTE: Serial can be specified or edited after the fact in a limited way by full role specfic only!! (service manager, bizadminfull, accounting maybe)
+
+            if (serial != null && !Authorized.HasAnyRole(CurrentUserRoles, RolesAllowedToChangeSerial))
             {
-                //do stuff with PM
-                PM outObj = inObj;
-
-                outObj.Tags = TagUtil.NormalizeTags(outObj.Tags);
-                outObj.CustomFields = JsonUtil.CompactJson(outObj.CustomFields);
-                //Save to db                              
-                await ct.PM.AddAsync(outObj);
-                await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
-                //Handle child and associated items:                
-                await EventLogProcessor.LogEventToDatabaseAsync(new Event(UserId, outObj.Id, BizType, AyaEvent.Created), ct);
-                await SearchIndexAsync(outObj, true);
-                await TagUtil.ProcessUpdateTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, outObj.Tags, null);
-
-                return outObj;
+                AddError(ApiErrorCode.NOT_AUTHORIZED, "Serial");
+                return null;
             }
+
+
+            //  await ValidateAsync(inObj, null);
+            // if (HasErrors)
+            //     return null;
+            // else
+            // {
+            //do stuff with PM
+            PM o = new PM();
+            o.Serial = serial ?? ServerBootConfig.WORKORDER_SERIAL.GetNext();
+
+            //TODO: template
+            //TODO: CUSTOMER ID
+
+
+            //Save to db                              
+            await ct.PM.AddAsync(o);
+            await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
+            //Handle child and associated items:                
+            await EventLogProcessor.LogEventToDatabaseAsync(new Event(UserId, o.Id, BizType, AyaEvent.Created), ct);
+            await SearchIndexAsync(o, true);
+            // await TagUtil.ProcessUpdateTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, o.Tags, null);
+
+            return o;
+            //}
         }
 
 
@@ -93,34 +108,34 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
 
         internal async Task<PM> DuplicateAsync(PM dbObj)
         {
+            throw new System.NotImplementedException("STUB: WORKORDER DUPLICATE");
+            // PM outObj = new PM();
+            // CopyObject.Copy(dbObj, outObj, "Wiki");
+            // // outObj.Name = Util.StringUtil.NameUniquify(outObj.Name, 255);
+            // //generate unique name
+            // string newUniqueName = string.Empty;
+            // bool NotUnique = true;
+            // long l = 1;
+            // do
+            // {
+            //     newUniqueName = Util.StringUtil.UniqueNameBuilder(dbObj.Name, l++, 255);
+            //     NotUnique = await ct.PM.AnyAsync(m => m.Name == newUniqueName);
+            // } while (NotUnique);
 
-            PM outObj = new PM();
-            CopyObject.Copy(dbObj, outObj, "Wiki");
-            // outObj.Name = Util.StringUtil.NameUniquify(outObj.Name, 255);
-            //generate unique name
-            string newUniqueName = string.Empty;
-            bool NotUnique = true;
-            long l = 1;
-            do
-            {
-                newUniqueName = Util.StringUtil.UniqueNameBuilder(dbObj.Name, l++, 255);
-                NotUnique = await ct.PM.AnyAsync(m => m.Name == newUniqueName);
-            } while (NotUnique);
-
-            outObj.Name = newUniqueName;
+            // outObj.Name = newUniqueName;
 
 
-            outObj.Id = 0;
-            outObj.ConcurrencyToken = 0;
+            // outObj.Id = 0;
+            // outObj.ConcurrencyToken = 0;
 
-            await ct.PM.AddAsync(outObj);
-            await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
+            // await ct.PM.AddAsync(outObj);
+            // await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
 
-            //Handle child and associated items:                
-            await EventLogProcessor.LogEventToDatabaseAsync(new Event(UserId, outObj.Id, BizType, AyaEvent.Created), ct);
-            await SearchIndexAsync(outObj, true);
-            await TagUtil.ProcessUpdateTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, outObj.Tags, null);
-            return outObj;
+            // //Handle child and associated items:                
+            // await EventLogProcessor.LogEventToDatabaseAsync(new Event(UserId, outObj.Id, BizType, AyaEvent.Created), ct);
+            // await SearchIndexAsync(outObj, true);
+            // await TagUtil.ProcessUpdateTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, outObj.Tags, null);
+            // return outObj;
 
         }
 
@@ -129,22 +144,28 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
         //
 
         //put
-        internal async Task<bool> PutAsync(PM dbObj, PM inObj)
+        internal async Task<bool> PutAsync(PM dbObj, PM putObj)
         {
 
-            //make a snapshot of the original for validation but update the original to preserve workflow           
+            // make a snapshot of the original for validation but update the original to preserve workflow           
             PM SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj = new PM();
             CopyObject.Copy(dbObj, SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj);
 
             //Replace the db object with the PUT object
-            CopyObject.Copy(inObj, dbObj, "Id");
+            CopyObject.Copy(putObj, dbObj, "Id,Serial");
+
+            //if user has rights then change it, otherwise just ignore it and do the rest
+            if (SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj.Serial != putObj.Serial && Authorized.HasAnyRole(CurrentUserRoles, RolesAllowedToChangeSerial))
+            {
+                dbObj.Serial = putObj.Serial;
+            }
 
             dbObj.Tags = TagUtil.NormalizeTags(dbObj.Tags);
             dbObj.CustomFields = JsonUtil.CompactJson(dbObj.CustomFields);
 
             //Set "original" value of concurrency token to input token
             //this will allow EF to check it out
-            ct.Entry(dbObj).OriginalValues["ConcurrencyToken"] = inObj.ConcurrencyToken;
+            ct.Entry(dbObj).OriginalValues["ConcurrencyToken"] = putObj.ConcurrencyToken;
 
 
             await ValidateAsync(dbObj, SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj);
@@ -159,42 +180,13 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
             return true;
         }
 
-        //patch
-        internal async Task<bool> PatchAsync(PM dbObj, JsonPatchDocument<PM> objectPatch, uint concurrencyToken)
-        {
-            //Validate Patch is allowed            
-            if (!ValidateJsonPatch<PM>.Validate(this, objectPatch)) return false;
-
-            //make a snapshot of the original for validation but update the original to preserve workflow           
-            PM SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj = new PM();
-            CopyObject.Copy(dbObj, SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj);
-
-            //Do the patching
-            objectPatch.ApplyTo(dbObj);
-
-            dbObj.Tags = TagUtil.NormalizeTags(dbObj.Tags);
-            dbObj.CustomFields = JsonUtil.CompactJson(dbObj.CustomFields);
-
-            ct.Entry(dbObj).OriginalValues["ConcurrencyToken"] = concurrencyToken;
-            await ValidateAsync(dbObj, SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj);
-            if (HasErrors)
-                return false;
-
-            //Log event and save context
-            await EventLogProcessor.LogEventToDatabaseAsync(new Event(UserId, dbObj.Id, BizType, AyaEvent.Modified), ct);
-            await SearchIndexAsync(dbObj, false);
-
-            await TagUtil.ProcessUpdateTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, dbObj.Tags, SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj.Tags);
-
-            return true;
-        }
 
 
         private async Task SearchIndexAsync(PM obj, bool isNew)
         {
             //SEARCH INDEXING
             var SearchParams = new Search.SearchIndexProcessObjectParameters(UserTranslationId, obj.Id, BizType);
-            SearchParams.AddText(obj.Notes).AddText(obj.Name).AddText(obj.Wiki).AddText(obj.Tags).AddCustomFields(obj.CustomFields);
+            SearchParams.AddText(obj.Notes).AddText(obj.Serial).AddText(obj.Wiki).AddText(obj.Tags).AddCustomFields(obj.CustomFields);
 
             if (isNew)
                 await Search.ProcessNewObjectKeywordsAsync(SearchParams);
@@ -207,7 +199,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
             var obj = await ct.PM.SingleOrDefaultAsync(m => m.Id == id);
             var SearchParams = new Search.SearchIndexProcessObjectParameters();
             if (obj != null)
-                SearchParams.AddText(obj.Notes).AddText(obj.Name).AddText(obj.Wiki).AddText(obj.Tags).AddCustomFields(obj.CustomFields);
+                SearchParams.AddText(obj.Notes).AddText(obj.Serial).AddText(obj.Wiki).AddText(obj.Tags).AddCustomFields(obj.CustomFields);
             return SearchParams;
         }
 
@@ -216,20 +208,21 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
         //
         internal async Task<bool> DeleteAsync(PM dbObj)
         {
+            throw new System.NotImplementedException("STUB: WORKORDER DELETE");
             //Determine if the object can be deleted, do the deletion tentatively
             //Probably also in here deal with tags and associated search text etc
 
             //NOT REQUIRED NOW BUT IF IN FUTURE ValidateCanDelete(dbObj);
-            if (HasErrors)
-                return false;
-            ct.PM.Remove(dbObj);
-            await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
+            // if (HasErrors)
+            //     return false;
+            // ct.PM.Remove(dbObj);
+            // await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
 
-            //Log event 
-            await EventLogProcessor.DeleteObjectLogAsync(UserId, BizType, dbObj.Id, dbObj.Name, ct);
-            await Search.ProcessDeletedObjectKeywordsAsync(dbObj.Id, BizType);
-            await TagUtil.ProcessDeleteTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, dbObj.Tags);
-            return true;
+            // //Log event 
+            // await EventLogProcessor.DeleteObjectLogAsync(UserId, BizType, dbObj.Id, dbObj.Serial.ToString(), ct);
+            // await Search.ProcessDeletedObjectKeywordsAsync(dbObj.Id, BizType);
+            // await TagUtil.ProcessDeleteTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, dbObj.Tags);
+            // return true;
         }
 
 
@@ -245,23 +238,23 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
             //run validation and biz rules
             bool isNew = currentObj == null;
 
-            //Name required
-            if (string.IsNullOrWhiteSpace(proposedObj.Name))
-                AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_REQUIRED, "Name");
+            // //Name required
+            // if (string.IsNullOrWhiteSpace(proposedObj.Name))
+            //     AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_REQUIRED, "Name");
 
-            //Name must be less than 255 characters
-            if (proposedObj.Name.Length > 255)
-                AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_LENGTH_EXCEEDED, "Name", "255 max");
+            // //Name must be less than 255 characters
+            // if (proposedObj.Name.Length > 255)
+            //     AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_LENGTH_EXCEEDED, "Name", "255 max");
 
-            //If name is otherwise OK, check that name is unique
-            if (!PropertyHasErrors("Name"))
-            {
-                //Use Any command is efficient way to check existance, it doesn't return the record, just a true or false
-                if (await ct.PM.AnyAsync(m => m.Name == proposedObj.Name && m.Id != proposedObj.Id))
-                {
-                    AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_NOT_UNIQUE, "Name");
-                }
-            }
+            // //If name is otherwise OK, check that name is unique
+            // if (!PropertyHasErrors("Name"))
+            // {
+            //     //Use Any command is efficient way to check existance, it doesn't return the record, just a true or false
+            //     if (await ct.PM.AnyAsync(m => m.Name == proposedObj.Name && m.Id != proposedObj.Id))
+            //     {
+            //         AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_NOT_UNIQUE, "Name");
+            //     }
+            // }
 
 
             //Any form customizations to validate?
diff --git a/server/AyaNova/biz/QuoteBiz.cs b/server/AyaNova/biz/QuoteBiz.cs
index 812e4140..eedca778 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/biz/QuoteBiz.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/biz/QuoteBiz.cs
@@ -10,6 +10,8 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
 
     internal class QuoteBiz : BizObject, ISearchAbleObject
     {
+        //Feature specific roles
+        internal static AuthorizationRoles RolesAllowedToChangeSerial = AuthorizationRoles.BizAdminFull | AuthorizationRoles.DispatchFull | AuthorizationRoles.AccountingFull;
 
         internal QuoteBiz(AyContext dbcontext, long currentUserId, long userTranslationId, AuthorizationRoles UserRoles)
         {
@@ -60,28 +62,41 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
         //CREATE   
 
         //Called from route and also seeder
-        internal async Task<Quote> CreateAsync(Quote inObj)
+        internal async Task<Quote> CreateAsync(long? workorderTemplateId, long? customerId, uint? serial)
         {
-            await ValidateAsync(inObj, null);
-            if (HasErrors)
-                return null;
-            else
+            //Create and save to db a new workorder and return it
+            //NOTE: Serial can be specified or edited after the fact in a limited way by full role specfic only!! (service manager, bizadminfull, accounting maybe)
+
+            if (serial != null && !Authorized.HasAnyRole(CurrentUserRoles, RolesAllowedToChangeSerial))
             {
-                //do stuff with Quote
-                Quote outObj = inObj;
-
-                outObj.Tags = TagUtil.NormalizeTags(outObj.Tags);
-                outObj.CustomFields = JsonUtil.CompactJson(outObj.CustomFields);
-                //Save to db                              
-                await ct.Quote.AddAsync(outObj);
-                await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
-                //Handle child and associated items:                
-                await EventLogProcessor.LogEventToDatabaseAsync(new Event(UserId, outObj.Id, BizType, AyaEvent.Created), ct);
-                await SearchIndexAsync(outObj, true);
-                await TagUtil.ProcessUpdateTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, outObj.Tags, null);
-
-                return outObj;
+                AddError(ApiErrorCode.NOT_AUTHORIZED, "Serial");
+                return null;
             }
+
+
+            //  await ValidateAsync(inObj, null);
+            // if (HasErrors)
+            //     return null;
+            // else
+            // {
+            //do stuff with Quote
+            Quote o = new Quote();
+            o.Serial = serial ?? ServerBootConfig.WORKORDER_SERIAL.GetNext();
+
+            //TODO: template
+            //TODO: CUSTOMER ID
+
+
+            //Save to db                              
+            await ct.Quote.AddAsync(o);
+            await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
+            //Handle child and associated items:                
+            await EventLogProcessor.LogEventToDatabaseAsync(new Event(UserId, o.Id, BizType, AyaEvent.Created), ct);
+            await SearchIndexAsync(o, true);
+            // await TagUtil.ProcessUpdateTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, o.Tags, null);
+
+            return o;
+            //}
         }
 
 
@@ -93,34 +108,34 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
 
         internal async Task<Quote> DuplicateAsync(Quote dbObj)
         {
+            throw new System.NotImplementedException("STUB: WORKORDER DUPLICATE");
+            // Quote outObj = new Quote();
+            // CopyObject.Copy(dbObj, outObj, "Wiki");
+            // // outObj.Name = Util.StringUtil.NameUniquify(outObj.Name, 255);
+            // //generate unique name
+            // string newUniqueName = string.Empty;
+            // bool NotUnique = true;
+            // long l = 1;
+            // do
+            // {
+            //     newUniqueName = Util.StringUtil.UniqueNameBuilder(dbObj.Name, l++, 255);
+            //     NotUnique = await ct.Quote.AnyAsync(m => m.Name == newUniqueName);
+            // } while (NotUnique);
 
-            Quote outObj = new Quote();
-            CopyObject.Copy(dbObj, outObj, "Wiki");
-            // outObj.Name = Util.StringUtil.NameUniquify(outObj.Name, 255);
-            //generate unique name
-            string newUniqueName = string.Empty;
-            bool NotUnique = true;
-            long l = 1;
-            do
-            {
-                newUniqueName = Util.StringUtil.UniqueNameBuilder(dbObj.Name, l++, 255);
-                NotUnique = await ct.Quote.AnyAsync(m => m.Name == newUniqueName);
-            } while (NotUnique);
-
-            outObj.Name = newUniqueName;
+            // outObj.Name = newUniqueName;
 
 
-            outObj.Id = 0;
-            outObj.ConcurrencyToken = 0;
+            // outObj.Id = 0;
+            // outObj.ConcurrencyToken = 0;
 
-            await ct.Quote.AddAsync(outObj);
-            await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
+            // await ct.Quote.AddAsync(outObj);
+            // await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
 
-            //Handle child and associated items:                
-            await EventLogProcessor.LogEventToDatabaseAsync(new Event(UserId, outObj.Id, BizType, AyaEvent.Created), ct);
-            await SearchIndexAsync(outObj, true);
-            await TagUtil.ProcessUpdateTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, outObj.Tags, null);
-            return outObj;
+            // //Handle child and associated items:                
+            // await EventLogProcessor.LogEventToDatabaseAsync(new Event(UserId, outObj.Id, BizType, AyaEvent.Created), ct);
+            // await SearchIndexAsync(outObj, true);
+            // await TagUtil.ProcessUpdateTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, outObj.Tags, null);
+            // return outObj;
 
         }
 
@@ -129,22 +144,28 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
         //
 
         //put
-        internal async Task<bool> PutAsync(Quote dbObj, Quote inObj)
+        internal async Task<bool> PutAsync(Quote dbObj, Quote putObj)
         {
 
-            //make a snapshot of the original for validation but update the original to preserve workflow           
+            // make a snapshot of the original for validation but update the original to preserve workflow           
             Quote SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj = new Quote();
             CopyObject.Copy(dbObj, SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj);
 
             //Replace the db object with the PUT object
-            CopyObject.Copy(inObj, dbObj, "Id");
+            CopyObject.Copy(putObj, dbObj, "Id,Serial");
+
+            //if user has rights then change it, otherwise just ignore it and do the rest
+            if (SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj.Serial != putObj.Serial && Authorized.HasAnyRole(CurrentUserRoles, RolesAllowedToChangeSerial))
+            {
+                dbObj.Serial = putObj.Serial;
+            }
 
             dbObj.Tags = TagUtil.NormalizeTags(dbObj.Tags);
             dbObj.CustomFields = JsonUtil.CompactJson(dbObj.CustomFields);
 
             //Set "original" value of concurrency token to input token
             //this will allow EF to check it out
-            ct.Entry(dbObj).OriginalValues["ConcurrencyToken"] = inObj.ConcurrencyToken;
+            ct.Entry(dbObj).OriginalValues["ConcurrencyToken"] = putObj.ConcurrencyToken;
 
 
             await ValidateAsync(dbObj, SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj);
@@ -159,42 +180,13 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
             return true;
         }
 
-        //patch
-        internal async Task<bool> PatchAsync(Quote dbObj, JsonPatchDocument<Quote> objectPatch, uint concurrencyToken)
-        {
-            //Validate Patch is allowed            
-            if (!ValidateJsonPatch<Quote>.Validate(this, objectPatch)) return false;
-
-            //make a snapshot of the original for validation but update the original to preserve workflow           
-            Quote SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj = new Quote();
-            CopyObject.Copy(dbObj, SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj);
-
-            //Do the patching
-            objectPatch.ApplyTo(dbObj);
-
-            dbObj.Tags = TagUtil.NormalizeTags(dbObj.Tags);
-            dbObj.CustomFields = JsonUtil.CompactJson(dbObj.CustomFields);
-
-            ct.Entry(dbObj).OriginalValues["ConcurrencyToken"] = concurrencyToken;
-            await ValidateAsync(dbObj, SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj);
-            if (HasErrors)
-                return false;
-
-            //Log event and save context
-            await EventLogProcessor.LogEventToDatabaseAsync(new Event(UserId, dbObj.Id, BizType, AyaEvent.Modified), ct);
-            await SearchIndexAsync(dbObj, false);
-
-            await TagUtil.ProcessUpdateTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, dbObj.Tags, SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj.Tags);
-
-            return true;
-        }
 
 
         private async Task SearchIndexAsync(Quote obj, bool isNew)
         {
             //SEARCH INDEXING
             var SearchParams = new Search.SearchIndexProcessObjectParameters(UserTranslationId, obj.Id, BizType);
-            SearchParams.AddText(obj.Notes).AddText(obj.Name).AddText(obj.Wiki).AddText(obj.Tags).AddCustomFields(obj.CustomFields);
+            SearchParams.AddText(obj.Notes).AddText(obj.Serial).AddText(obj.Wiki).AddText(obj.Tags).AddCustomFields(obj.CustomFields);
 
             if (isNew)
                 await Search.ProcessNewObjectKeywordsAsync(SearchParams);
@@ -207,7 +199,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
             var obj = await ct.Quote.SingleOrDefaultAsync(m => m.Id == id);
             var SearchParams = new Search.SearchIndexProcessObjectParameters();
             if (obj != null)
-                SearchParams.AddText(obj.Notes).AddText(obj.Name).AddText(obj.Wiki).AddText(obj.Tags).AddCustomFields(obj.CustomFields);
+                SearchParams.AddText(obj.Notes).AddText(obj.Serial).AddText(obj.Wiki).AddText(obj.Tags).AddCustomFields(obj.CustomFields);
             return SearchParams;
         }
 
@@ -216,20 +208,21 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
         //
         internal async Task<bool> DeleteAsync(Quote dbObj)
         {
+            throw new System.NotImplementedException("STUB: WORKORDER DELETE");
             //Determine if the object can be deleted, do the deletion tentatively
             //Probably also in here deal with tags and associated search text etc
 
             //NOT REQUIRED NOW BUT IF IN FUTURE ValidateCanDelete(dbObj);
-            if (HasErrors)
-                return false;
-            ct.Quote.Remove(dbObj);
-            await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
+            // if (HasErrors)
+            //     return false;
+            // ct.Quote.Remove(dbObj);
+            // await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
 
-            //Log event 
-            await EventLogProcessor.DeleteObjectLogAsync(UserId, BizType, dbObj.Id, dbObj.Name, ct);
-            await Search.ProcessDeletedObjectKeywordsAsync(dbObj.Id, BizType);
-            await TagUtil.ProcessDeleteTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, dbObj.Tags);
-            return true;
+            // //Log event 
+            // await EventLogProcessor.DeleteObjectLogAsync(UserId, BizType, dbObj.Id, dbObj.Serial.ToString(), ct);
+            // await Search.ProcessDeletedObjectKeywordsAsync(dbObj.Id, BizType);
+            // await TagUtil.ProcessDeleteTagsInRepositoryAsync(ct, dbObj.Tags);
+            // return true;
         }
 
 
@@ -245,23 +238,23 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
             //run validation and biz rules
             bool isNew = currentObj == null;
 
-            //Name required
-            if (string.IsNullOrWhiteSpace(proposedObj.Name))
-                AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_REQUIRED, "Name");
+            // //Name required
+            // if (string.IsNullOrWhiteSpace(proposedObj.Name))
+            //     AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_REQUIRED, "Name");
 
-            //Name must be less than 255 characters
-            if (proposedObj.Name.Length > 255)
-                AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_LENGTH_EXCEEDED, "Name", "255 max");
+            // //Name must be less than 255 characters
+            // if (proposedObj.Name.Length > 255)
+            //     AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_LENGTH_EXCEEDED, "Name", "255 max");
 
-            //If name is otherwise OK, check that name is unique
-            if (!PropertyHasErrors("Name"))
-            {
-                //Use Any command is efficient way to check existance, it doesn't return the record, just a true or false
-                if (await ct.Quote.AnyAsync(m => m.Name == proposedObj.Name && m.Id != proposedObj.Id))
-                {
-                    AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_NOT_UNIQUE, "Name");
-                }
-            }
+            // //If name is otherwise OK, check that name is unique
+            // if (!PropertyHasErrors("Name"))
+            // {
+            //     //Use Any command is efficient way to check existance, it doesn't return the record, just a true or false
+            //     if (await ct.Quote.AnyAsync(m => m.Name == proposedObj.Name && m.Id != proposedObj.Id))
+            //     {
+            //         AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_NOT_UNIQUE, "Name");
+            //     }
+            // }
 
 
             //Any form customizations to validate?