diff --git a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/AuthorizationRolesController.cs b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/AuthorizationRolesController.cs
index eb01bd5b..51a1008a 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/AuthorizationRolesController.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/AuthorizationRolesController.cs
@@ -43,45 +43,27 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
 
         /// <summary>
         /// Get roles
-        /// </summary>        
+        /// </summary>  
+        /// <param name="AsJson">Return as compact JSON format</param>      
         /// <returns>Dictionary list of AyaNova object types and their authorization role rights in AyaNova</returns>
         [HttpGet("list")]
-        public ActionResult GetRoles()
+        public ActionResult GetRoles([FromQuery] bool AsJson = false)
         {
             if (!serverState.IsOpen)
             {
                 return StatusCode(503, new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.API_CLOSED, null, serverState.Reason));
             }
 
-
-
-            return Ok(ApiOkResponse.Response(BizRoles.roles, true));
+            //as json for client end of things
+            if (AsJson)
+                return Ok(ApiOkResponse.Response(Newtonsoft.Json.JsonConvert.SerializeObject(BizRoles.roles, Newtonsoft.Json.Formatting.None), true));
+            else
+                return Ok(ApiOkResponse.Response(BizRoles.roles, true));
         }
 
 
 
 
-        // /// <summary>
-        // /// Get all possible enumerated values picklist key names
-        // /// </summary>     
-        // /// <returns>List of AyaNova enumerated type list key names that can be fetched from the AyaEnumPickList/GetPickListRoute</returns>
-        // [HttpGet("listkeys")]
-        // public ActionResult GetTypesList()
-        // {
-        //     if (!serverState.IsOpen)
-        //     {
-        //         return StatusCode(503, new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.API_CLOSED, null, serverState.Reason));
-        //     }
-
-        //     List<KeyValuePair<string, string>> ret = new List<KeyValuePair<string, string>>();
-        //     ret.Add(new KeyValuePair<string, string>("usertypes", "AyaNova user account types"));
-        //     ret.Add(new KeyValuePair<string, string>("authorizationroles", "AyaNova user account role types"));
-        //     ret.Add(new KeyValuePair<string, string>("AyaType", "All AyaNova object types, use the AyaTypeController route to fetch these"));
-        //     ret.Add(new KeyValuePair<string, string>("datatypes", "Types of data used in AyaNova for display and formatting UI purposes"));
-
-        //     return Ok(ApiOkResponse.Response(ret, true));
-        // }
-
 
 
 
diff --git a/server/AyaNova/Startup.cs b/server/AyaNova/Startup.cs
index cb0e8d94..57819e61 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/Startup.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/Startup.cs
@@ -400,6 +400,7 @@ namespace AyaNova
                                $"/swagger/{description.GroupName}/swagger.json",
                                description.GroupName.ToUpperInvariant());
                        }
+                       options.DocExpansion(Swashbuckle.AspNetCore.SwaggerUI.DocExpansion.None);
                        options.DefaultModelsExpandDepth(-1);//This is meant to hide the Models section that would appear at the bottom of the swagger ui showing *all* models from the api
                        options.DocumentTitle = "AyaNova API explorer";
                        options.RoutePrefix = "api-docs";
diff --git a/server/AyaNova/biz/BizRoles.cs b/server/AyaNova/biz/BizRoles.cs
index 44c260b1..4364e219 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/biz/BizRoles.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/biz/BizRoles.cs
@@ -163,30 +163,32 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
 
 
             #region output as JSON for client side
-#if (DEBUG)
+            //Deprecated, now have api route for this instead
+            //no need to manually copy to client
+// #if (DEBUG)
 
-            //################## HOW TO USE ##########
-            //##############  Uncomment SerializeObject line, put a break on lastRoles, copy from the output in the LOG (good for javascript with quotes formatted that way) #######
-            // #### NEED to separately take a copy and update "lastRoles" string here by copying from the variable watch for the "json" variable shown in the debugger because need the C# format escaped quotes string
+//             //################## HOW TO USE ##########
+//             //##############  Uncomment SerializeObject line, put a break on lastRoles, copy from the output in the LOG (good for javascript with quotes formatted that way) #######
+//             // #### NEED to separately take a copy and update "lastRoles" string here by copying from the variable watch for the "json" variable shown in the debugger because need the C# format escaped quotes string
 
-            //GENERATE JSON FROM ROLES
-            string json = Newtonsoft.Json.JsonConvert.SerializeObject(roles, Newtonsoft.Json.Formatting.None);
+//             //GENERATE JSON FROM ROLES
+//             string json = Newtonsoft.Json.JsonConvert.SerializeObject(roles, Newtonsoft.Json.Formatting.None);
 
-            //Output roles JSON FRAGMENT string for CLIENT to log
-            System.Diagnostics.Debugger.Log(1, "JSONFRAGMENTFORCLIENT", "BizRoles.cs -> biz-role-rights.js Client roles JSON fragment:");
-            System.Diagnostics.Debugger.Log(1, "JSONFRAGMENTFORCLIENT", json);
+//             //Output roles JSON FRAGMENT string for CLIENT to log
+//             System.Diagnostics.Debugger.Log(1, "JSONFRAGMENTFORCLIENT", "BizRoles.cs -> biz-role-rights.js Client roles JSON fragment:");
+//             System.Diagnostics.Debugger.Log(1, "JSONFRAGMENTFORCLIENT", json);
 
-            //ONGOING VALIDATION TO CATCH MISMATCH WHEN NEW ROLES ADDED (wont' catch changes to existing unfortunately)           
-            //var lastRoles = "{\"User\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":1},\"UserOptions\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":1},\"Widget\":{\"Change\":34,\"ReadFullRecord\":17},\"ServerState\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":32767},\"License\":{\"Change\":16386,\"ReadFullRecord\":8193},\"LogFile\":{\"Change\":0,\"ReadFullRecord\":24576},\"JobOperations\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":8195},\"AyaNova7Import\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":0},\"Metrics\":{\"Change\":0,\"ReadFullRecord\":24576},\"Locale\":{\"Change\":16386,\"ReadFullRecord\":32767},\"DataListFilter\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":32767},\"FormCustom\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":32767}}";
-            var lastRoles = "{\"User\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":1},\"UserOptions\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":1},\"Widget\":{\"Change\":34,\"ReadFullRecord\":17},\"ServerState\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":131071},\"License\":{\"Change\":16386,\"ReadFullRecord\":8193},\"LogFile\":{\"Change\":0,\"ReadFullRecord\":24576},\"JobOperations\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":8195},\"AyaNova7Import\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":0},\"Metrics\":{\"Change\":0,\"ReadFullRecord\":24576},\"Locale\":{\"Change\":16386,\"ReadFullRecord\":131071},\"DataListFilter\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":131071},\"DataListTemplate\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":131071},\"FormCustom\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":131071}}";
-            Dictionary<AyaType, BizRoleSet> lastRolesDeserialized = Newtonsoft.Json.JsonConvert.DeserializeObject<Dictionary<AyaType, BizRoleSet>>(lastRoles);
-            if (lastRolesDeserialized.Count != roles.Count)
-            {
-                throw new System.ArgumentException("BizRoles::Constructor - roles were modified from last snapshot for client!!!");
-            }
+//             //ONGOING VALIDATION TO CATCH MISMATCH WHEN NEW ROLES ADDED (wont' catch changes to existing unfortunately)           
+//             //var lastRoles = "{\"User\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":1},\"UserOptions\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":1},\"Widget\":{\"Change\":34,\"ReadFullRecord\":17},\"ServerState\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":32767},\"License\":{\"Change\":16386,\"ReadFullRecord\":8193},\"LogFile\":{\"Change\":0,\"ReadFullRecord\":24576},\"JobOperations\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":8195},\"AyaNova7Import\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":0},\"Metrics\":{\"Change\":0,\"ReadFullRecord\":24576},\"Locale\":{\"Change\":16386,\"ReadFullRecord\":32767},\"DataListFilter\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":32767},\"FormCustom\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":32767}}";
+//             var lastRoles = "{\"User\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":1},\"UserOptions\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":1},\"Widget\":{\"Change\":34,\"ReadFullRecord\":17},\"ServerState\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":131071},\"License\":{\"Change\":16386,\"ReadFullRecord\":8193},\"LogFile\":{\"Change\":0,\"ReadFullRecord\":24576},\"JobOperations\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":8195},\"AyaNova7Import\":{\"Change\":16384,\"ReadFullRecord\":0},\"Metrics\":{\"Change\":0,\"ReadFullRecord\":24576},\"Locale\":{\"Change\":16386,\"ReadFullRecord\":131071},\"DataListFilter\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":131071},\"DataListTemplate\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":131071},\"FormCustom\":{\"Change\":2,\"ReadFullRecord\":131071}}";
+//             Dictionary<AyaType, BizRoleSet> lastRolesDeserialized = Newtonsoft.Json.JsonConvert.DeserializeObject<Dictionary<AyaType, BizRoleSet>>(lastRoles);
+//             if (lastRolesDeserialized.Count != roles.Count)
+//             {
+//                 throw new System.ArgumentException("BizRoles::Constructor - roles were modified from last snapshot for client!!!");
+//             }
 
 
-#endif
+// #endif
             #endregion