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Worksheet for all business stuff related to pricing licensing activation models.
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Worksheet for all business stuff related to pricing licensing activation models.
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## sept 2022 Subscription worksheet pricing
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This is based on basic 6 dollar droplet if users need more then they pay for more, it costs us 4% for anything we charge for so we need to add that to any costs digitalocean charges us, plus a 2.95 transaction fee.
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### SUBSCRIPTION
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## Subscription worksheet pricing
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SUBSCRIPTION
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cost:
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cost:
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Droplet
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Droplet
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$6 month 1gb / 1cpu/ 1tb xfer/ 25gb total (5GB is taken by installed apps on new setup, so 20gb is free here and available to users)
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$6 month 1gb / 1cpu/ 1tb xfer/ 25gb total (5GB is taken by installed apps on new setup, so 20gb is free here and available to users)
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$12/month 2gb/ 1cpu/ 2tb xfer/ 50gb total storage
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$12/month 2gb/ 1cpu/ 2tb xfer/ 50gb total storage
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100gb for attachments / backups (NOT DB) $10.00 month
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100gb for attachments / backups (NOT DB) $10.00 month
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@@ -21,12 +24,11 @@ DigitalOcean: 7% PST not refundable (gst is refundable)
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So a server costs us 6+7%=$6.42/month or $77.04 per year currently
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So a server costs us 6+7%=$6.42/month or $77.04 per year currently
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Each payment made costs us 4% + 2.95
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Each payment made costs us 4% + 2.95
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So yearly fixed costs for any scenario or
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So yearly fixed costs for any scenario or
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server rental 77.04
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server rental 77.04
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Shareit flat fee (assuming monthly) 35.40
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Shareit flat fee (assuming monthly) 35.40
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so a customer costs us $112.44 per year plus 4% of sales
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so a customer costs us $112.44 per year plus 4% of sales
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V7 REAL NET SALES FOR COMPARISON ONLY COUNTING SUBSCRIPTION SUBSEQUENT YEARS (what we're actually making now)
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V7 REAL NET SALES FOR COMPARISON ONLY COUNTING SUBSCRIPTION SUBSEQUENT YEARS (what we're actually making now)
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1 user $55.65-4%=53.42-2.95=50.47
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1 user $55.65-4%=53.42-2.95=50.47
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15 user $577 =550net
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15 user $577 =550net
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20 user $693=662 net
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20 user $693=662 net
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V8 SUBSCRIPTION
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V8 SUBSCRIPTION
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Hypothetical license fees and profits Always assuming monthly payment schedule
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Hypothetical license fees and profits Always assuming monthly payment schedule
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$12 dollar per single user minimum 2 licenses
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$12 dollar per logon user
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1-2 user= $24.00 month 24-4%=23.04-2.95=20.09-6.42=13.67net/month * 12 = 164.00/year net sales for up to two user
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1 user= $12.00 month 30.84/yr net profit / charges 120/yr
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5 User = 578.76/year net profit per year
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5 User = 578.76/year net profit per year | charges 720 yr
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10 user = $1269.96 / net profit for year
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10 user = $1269.96 / net profit for year | charges 1440 /yr
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15 user = $1961.16 / net profit for a year
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15 user = $1961.16 / net profit for a year | charges 2160 yr
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20 user = $2652.36 / net per year
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20 user = $2652.36 / net per year | charges 2880 / yr
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50 user = charges 7200 / yr
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### PERPETUAL
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V7 REAL CHARGES FOR SUBSCRIPTION FOR COMPARISON ONLY (what customers are paying year to year after the first year which is our only real revenue right now)
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1 tech $55.65
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5 tech $243.25
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10 tech $416.50
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15 tech $577.50
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20 tech $693.00
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50 tech $1382.5
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POTENTIAL NEW PERPETUAL V8 PRICING AND SYSTEM
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Subscription only, no different up front cost, you pay per year for a years worth of support and updates and can stop before the next year renewal and be fixed at that release version.
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$2/user per month or 24 per user per year, minimum 3 users??
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Proposed v8 Perpetual pricing:
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$24/year per **active login user** minimum 3 users
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1-3 **users** = $72.00 charge to customer / $66.17 net profit
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5 users = $120 charge / $112.25 net profit
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10 users = $240 charge / $227.45 net profit
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15 users = $360 charge / $342.65 net profit
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20 users = $480 charge / $457.85 net profit
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50 users = $1200.00 charge / $1122.50 net profit
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#### New software so new changes to perpetual?
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1. we don't sell any new v7 licenses
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Not perceived as value for money spent / too expensive?
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Too old and outdated?
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No one wants to install self-installed software anymore?
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marketing, maybe not enough marketing or effort in it?
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2. It costs more time to support perpetual but it's not a lot in the big scheme of things
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3. licensing by scheduleable resource is clunky to market, hard to word, confusing for end users, can we simplify for per active login user like subscription
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Existing customers need to be treated fairly:
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what is a fair price, sb less than subscription as there are no costs to us except for processing (not counting development costs at all in any of this)
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to calculate fair price, how many non scheduleable users on average per sched user per office in terms of existing customers? (e.g. for every 3 techs are there 1 office staff that needs to login or...?)
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4. better to have more customers at lower price point than less at higher - volume?
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# NOTHING BELOW HERE IS CURRENT
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# NOTHING BELOW HERE IS CURRENT
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###################### TODO: revisit subscription pricing, too high, set to much lower but minimum 100/month effectively by x minimum licenses to purchase
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###################### TODO: revisit subscription pricing, too high, set to much lower but minimum 100/month effectively by x minimum licenses to purchase
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## NOT Actual OLD SHIT
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## NOT Actual OLD SHIT
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Sample email outlining pricing until get on web page:
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Sample email outlining pricing until get on web page:
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Good morning Rich, I have just been given the new pricing.
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Good morning Rich, I have just been given the new pricing.
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There is no web page to send you to yet, but I can just relay it below. Note that I'm typing this out from notes, it's not in official form but it will give you the pricing.
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There is no web page to send you to yet, but I can just relay it below. Note that I'm typing this out from notes, it's not in official form but it will give you the pricing.
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There are two options coming - "Perpetual" license where customer self installs on their own hardware and "Subscription" license where we host AyaNova for you as a subscription service.
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There are two options coming - "Perpetual" license where customer self installs on their own hardware and "Subscription" license where we host AyaNova for you as a subscription service.
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All prices in US dollars.
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All prices in US dollars.
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AYANOVA PERPETUAL LICENSE
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# AYANOVA PERPETUAL LICENSE
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AyaNova self-installed on own hardware / network
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AyaNova self-installed on own hardware / network
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$135.00 per scheduled technician User
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$135.00 per scheduled technician User
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$0.00 for any other Users that are not scheduled or booked on work orders or have their labor tracked etc (i.e. office staff, Inventory people, Sales, Accounting, Customer User logins etc)
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$0.00 for any other Users that are not scheduled or booked on work orders or have their labor tracked etc (i.e. office staff, Inventory people, Sales, Accounting, Customer User logins etc)
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Includes 30 days Maintenance plan (technical support and any updates released in that time period).
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Includes 30 days Maintenance plan (technical support and any updates released in that time period).
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Backup data is compatible with Subscription version (below) if you want to switch and save the costs of supporting your own hardware, ISP and I.T. etc.
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Backup data is compatible with Subscription version (below) if you want to switch and save the costs of supporting your own hardware, ISP and I.T. etc.
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# AYANOVA SUBSCRIPTION LICENSE
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AYANOVA SUBSCRIPTION LICENSE
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===========================
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AyaNova hosted by us on our servers in your choice of data center
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AyaNova hosted by us on our servers in your choice of data center
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(US West, US East, Toronto Canada, Amsterdam Netherlands, Frankfurt Germany, Singapore, Bangalore India)
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(US West, US East, Toronto Canada, Amsterdam Netherlands, Frankfurt Germany, Singapore, Bangalore India)
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$50.00 per month per active User
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$50.00 per month per active User
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Any User account who is set to Active in AyaNova, not by scheduled technician as in the Perpetual license.
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Any User account who is set to Active in AyaNova, not by scheduled technician as in the Perpetual license.
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Customers can also be set to optionally login to AyaNova for the Customer self service features; 100 Customer Contact Users (set to active) are included and blocks of 100 can be added on for $10/mo
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Customers can also be set to optionally login to AyaNova for the Customer self service features; 100 Customer Contact Users (set to active) are included and blocks of 100 can be added on for $10/mo
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Can use the provided subdomain name or bring your own domain for no extra charge.
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Can use the provided subdomain name or bring your own domain for no extra charge.
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More details on optional add-on's for Subscriptions to come as it's getting finalized but that's the main price.
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More details on optional add-on's for Subscriptions to come as it's getting finalized but that's the main price.
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- John
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- John
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www.ayanova.com
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www.ayanova.com
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## ACTIVATION
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## ACTIVATION
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The method by which a user starts using your product is called the activation model. i.e. evaluation, trialing etc
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The method by which a user starts using your product is called the activation model. i.e. evaluation, trialing etc
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#### PERPETUAL
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### IN PROGRESS price
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### IN PROGRESS price
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**US$135.00 / tech up front perpetual license**
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**US$135.00 / tech up front perpetual license**
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No volume discounts - same price for any size company
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No volume discounts - same price for any size company
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**WHAT IF 50/user/mo** $50/mo per user based on yearly or 56.00/mo based on monthly
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**WHAT IF 50/user/mo** $50/mo per user based on yearly or 56.00/mo based on monthly
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5 user would be 250/mo*12=*3000/yr
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5 user would be 250/mo*12=*3000/yr
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10 user would be 500/mo*12=5000/yr
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10 user would be 500/mo\*12=5000/yr
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**WHAT If quadruple maint (TOO HIGH)?** I have to do a lot of coding to keep retaining so it needs to be worth our while so 4 times the maint rate? (66.66, round to 65) 75/mo
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**WHAT If quadruple maint (TOO HIGH)?** I have to do a lot of coding to keep retaining so it needs to be worth our while so 4 times the maint rate? (66.66, round to 65) 75/mo
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1 user 65-7=58\*12=696/year
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1 user 65-7=58\*12=696/year
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