diff --git a/devdocs/todo.txt b/devdocs/todo.txt
index 4becdc93..25f476f3 100644
--- a/devdocs/todo.txt
+++ b/devdocs/todo.txt
@@ -16,6 +16,10 @@ REALLY MAKING MORE PROGRESS WHEN CLIENT DEV DRIVES BACKEND DEV, STICK TO THAT!!
 DO CLIENT STUFF NOW COME BACK TO THIS STUFF LATER
 
 ###*** BEFORE NEXT UPDATE TO DEVOPS SERVER:::::::
+TODO: Widget controller is doing a lot of database work in routes before calling biz, I'm concerned about separation of concerns here
+	- Controller shouldn't have to know about database or is this realistic with the design?
+	- Can I just move all DB related code out of widget or is this a nightmare at this point?
+
 TODO: NEEDS A THINK, SOME CHANGES REQUIRE DB ERASURE BEFORE STARTUP
 	- Make it fucking easier to test deploy and erase db and fetch key and all that shit
 	- I would like to deploy, bring it up and then from a simple command from the api explorer trigger all the above
diff --git a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/UserController.cs b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/UserController.cs
index b25194bc..5f9ada8d 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/UserController.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/UserController.cs
@@ -327,7 +327,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
             //Instantiate the business object handler
             UserBiz biz = UserBiz.GetBiz(ct, HttpContext);
 
-            //If a user has change roles, or editOwnRoles then they can create, true is passed for isOwner since they are creating so by definition the owner
+            //If a user has change roles
             if (!Authorized.HasCreateRole(HttpContext.Items, biz.BizType))
             {
                 return StatusCode(403, new ApiNotAuthorizedResponse());
diff --git a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/WidgetController.cs b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/WidgetController.cs
index 50710e43..80619579 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/WidgetController.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/WidgetController.cs
@@ -51,7 +51,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
         /// Get full widget object
         /// 
         /// Required roles:
-        /// BizAdminFull, InventoryFull, BizAdminLimited, InventoryLimited, TechFull, TechLimited, Accounting
+        /// BizAdminFull, InventoryFull, BizAdminLimited, InventoryLimited
         /// </summary>
         /// <param name="id"></param>
         /// <returns>A single widget</returns>
@@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
         /// Get filter and sort options
         /// 
         /// Required roles: 
-        /// BizAdminFull, InventoryFull, BizAdminLimited, InventoryLimited, TechFull, TechLimited, Accounting
+        /// BizAdminFull, InventoryFull, BizAdminLimited, InventoryLimited
         /// 
         /// </summary>
         /// <returns>Filter options</returns>    
@@ -113,7 +113,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
         /// Get paged list of widgets
         /// 
         /// Required roles: 
-        ///  BizAdminFull, InventoryFull, BizAdminLimited, InventoryLimited, TechFull, TechLimited, Accounting
+        ///  BizAdminFull, InventoryFull, BizAdminLimited, InventoryLimited
         /// </summary>
         /// <returns>Paged collection of widgets with paging data</returns>            
         [HttpGet("ListWidgets", Name = nameof(ListWidgets))]//We MUST have a "Name" defined or we can't get the link for the pagination, non paged urls don't need a name
@@ -167,7 +167,6 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
         /// 
         /// Required roles:
         /// BizAdminFull, InventoryFull
-        /// TechFull (owned only)
         /// 
         /// </summary>
         /// <param name="id"></param>
@@ -214,7 +213,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
         /// 
         /// Required roles:
         /// BizAdminFull, InventoryFull
-        /// TechFull (owned only)
+        /// 
         /// </summary>
         /// <param name="id"></param>
         /// <param name="concurrencyToken"></param>
@@ -262,7 +261,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
         /// Post widget
         /// 
         /// Required roles: 
-        /// BizAdminFull, InventoryFull, TechFull
+        /// BizAdminFull, InventoryFull
         /// </summary>
         /// <param name="inObj"></param>
         /// <returns></returns>
@@ -275,7 +274,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
             //Instantiate the business object handler
             WidgetBiz biz = WidgetBiz.GetBiz(ct, HttpContext);
 
-            //If a user has change roles, or editOwnRoles then they can create, true is passed for isOwner since they are creating so by definition the owner
+            //If a user has change roles
             if (!Authorized.HasCreateRole(HttpContext.Items, biz.BizType))
                 return StatusCode(403, new ApiNotAuthorizedResponse());
 
@@ -291,6 +290,43 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
 
         }
 
+        /// <summary>
+        /// Duplicate widget
+        /// 
+        /// Required roles: 
+        /// BizAdminFull, InventoryFull
+        /// </summary>
+        /// <param name="id">Create a duplicate of this item id</param>
+        /// <returns></returns>
+        [HttpPost("duplicate/{id}")]
+        public async Task<IActionResult> DuplicateWidget([FromRoute] long id)
+        {
+            if (!serverState.IsOpen)
+                return StatusCode(503, new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.API_CLOSED, null, serverState.Reason));
+
+            //Instantiate the business object handler
+            WidgetBiz biz = WidgetBiz.GetBiz(ct, HttpContext);
+
+            //If a user has change roles
+            if (!Authorized.HasCreateRole(HttpContext.Items, biz.BizType))
+                return StatusCode(403, new ApiNotAuthorizedResponse());
+
+            if (!ModelState.IsValid)
+                return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(ModelState));
+
+            var oSrc = await biz.GetNoLogAsync(id);
+            if (oSrc == null)
+                return NotFound(new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.NOT_FOUND));
+
+            //Create and validate
+            Widget o = await biz.DuplicateAsync(oSrc);
+            if (o == null)
+                return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(biz.Errors));
+            else
+                return CreatedAtAction("GetWidget", new { id = o.Id }, new ApiCreatedResponse(o));
+
+        }
+
 
 
         /// <summary>
@@ -298,7 +334,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
         /// 
         /// Required roles:
         /// BizAdminFull, InventoryFull
-        /// TechFull (owned only)
+        /// 
         /// 
         /// </summary>
         /// <param name="id"></param>
diff --git a/server/AyaNova/biz/WidgetBiz.cs b/server/AyaNova/biz/WidgetBiz.cs
index 639f398b..22657e51 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/biz/WidgetBiz.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/biz/WidgetBiz.cs
@@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
             {
                 //do stuff with widget
                 Widget outObj = inObj;
-              
+
                 //Test get serial id visible id number from generator
                 outObj.Serial = ServerBootConfig.WIDGET_SERIAL.GetNext();
 
@@ -113,7 +113,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
             {
                 //do stuff with widget
                 Widget outObj = inObj;
-               
+
                 //Test get serial id visible id number from generator
                 outObj.Serial = ServerBootConfig.WIDGET_SERIAL.GetNext();
                 outObj.Tags = TagUtil.NormalizeTags(outObj.Tags);
@@ -131,6 +131,29 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
         }
 
 
+        ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+        //DUPLICATE
+        //
+
+        internal async Task<Widget> DuplicateAsync(Widget dbObj)
+        {
+
+            Widget outObj = new Widget();
+            CopyObject.Copy(dbObj, outObj);
+
+            //Test get serial id visible id number from generator
+            outObj.Serial = ServerBootConfig.WIDGET_SERIAL.GetNext();
+
+            await ct.Widget.AddAsync(outObj);
+            await ct.SaveChangesAsync();
+
+            //Handle child and associated items:                
+            EventLogProcessor.LogEventToDatabase(new Event(UserId, outObj.Id, BizType, AyaEvent.Created), ct);
+            SearchIndex(outObj, true);
+            TagUtil.ProcessUpdateTagsInRepository(ct, outObj.Tags, null);
+            return outObj;
+
+        }
 
         ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
         //UPDATE
@@ -139,7 +162,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
         //put
         internal bool Put(Widget dbObj, Widget inObj)
         {
-          
+
             //make a snapshot of the original for validation but update the original to preserve workflow           
             Widget SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj = new Widget();
             CopyObject.Copy(dbObj, SnapshotOfOriginalDBObj);
@@ -351,7 +374,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
             //     // }
             // }
 
-           
+
             //Name required
             if (string.IsNullOrWhiteSpace(proposedObj.Name))
                 AddError(ApiErrorCode.VALIDATION_REQUIRED, "Name");