diff --git a/devdocs/solutions.txt b/devdocs/solutions.txt
index 302657fe..0d570850 100644
--- a/devdocs/solutions.txt
+++ b/devdocs/solutions.txt
@@ -246,3 +246,14 @@ Good test time zones:
 America/St_Johns - because it has a fractional hour difference
 America/New_York 
 America/Los_Angeles
+
+
+## How to make a postgres portable from binaries
+	download latest binaries: https://www.enterprisedb.com/download-postgresql-binaries
+	unzip latest binaries to a source folder
+	make a dest folder in c:\data\code\postgres_xx
+	copy bin, lib, share folders from source to dest
+	Create a new db, run this once: 
+	c:\data\code\postgres_14\bin\initdb -D ^"C^:^\data^\code^\postgres^_14^\ayanova^" -U postgres -A trust
+	that's it, run it with: 
+	C:\data\code\postgres_14\bin\pg_ctl -D ^"C^:^\data^\code^\postgres^_14^\ayanova^" -l logfile start
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/startsql.bat b/startsql.bat
index 19d5634b..bf727a83 100644
--- a/startsql.bat
+++ b/startsql.bat
@@ -1,9 +1,12 @@
-REM docker start dock-pg10 dock-pgadmin
-REM docker run --rm --name pg -p 5432:5432 -e POSTGRES_PASSWORD=raven -e POSTGRES_DB=AyaNova -d postgres:latest
-REM GONE PORTABLE INSTEAD
-rem start C:\data\code\PostgreSQLPortable_12.0\postgresqlportable.exe
+@rem this is to initialize a new db first time a new version is set up of postgres
+@rem c:\data\code\postgres_14\bin\initdb -D ^"C^:^\data^\code^\postgres^_14^\ayanova^" -U postgres -A trust
 
-C:\data\code\postgres_13\bin\pg_ctl -D ^"C^:^\data^\code^\postgres^_13^\ayanova^" -l logfile start
+@rem old version
+@rem C:\data\code\postgres_13\bin\pg_ctl -D ^"C^:^\data^\code^\postgres^_13^\ayanova^" -l logfile start
+C:\data\code\postgres_14\bin\pg_ctl -D ^"C^:^\data^\code^\postgres^_14^\ayanova^" -l logfile start
+ECHO Press any key to stop POSTGRES database server
+pause
+C:\data\code\postgres_14\bin\pg_ctl -D ^"C^:^\data^\code^\postgres^_14^\ayanova^" stop
 
 @REM @ECHO OFF
 @REM setlocal 
@@ -13,6 +16,7 @@ C:\data\code\postgres_13\bin\pg_ctl -D ^"C^:^\data^\code^\postgres^_13^\ayanova^
 @REM SET PGUSER=postgres
 @REM SET PGPORT=5432
 @REM SET PGLOCALEDIR=%~dp0postgres\share\locale
+
 @REM "%~dp0\postgres\bin\pg_ctl" -D "%~dp0/data/database" -l %~dp0data\logs\postgreslog start
 
 @REM ECHO Press any key to stop POSTGRES database server