diff --git a/devdocs/todo.txt b/devdocs/todo.txt
index 1aa80905..c62f40d0 100644
--- a/devdocs/todo.txt
+++ b/devdocs/todo.txt
@@ -18,13 +18,17 @@ GRID LISTS TODO NOW:
 		- Can it just make a default template if none is found?  (no they are all required)
 	- Once both lists are working:
 		- abstract away the commonalities into other classes
-		- REFACTOR: There's going to be a fair number of data source lists in routes so..
-			- NOT immediate issue, but once the lists are working...
+		- REFACTOR: There's going to be a fair number of data source lists in routes so..			
 			- Do I make a route for each one or user provides a key of which list they want and that goes into a single route to return the data?
 			- What about when there are dozens of reports, do they all hang off each object type controller or is there just a central data list route for all combined?
 				- i.e. if I want to make a widget->user->Email report and a separate user email report are they each in widget and user
 				- Or, because they are read only lists used for many things do they just go into a central route for read only lists?
+				- I LIKE CENTRAL BECAUSE IT"S TASK ORIENTED and will mean the object controllers can focus on CRUD stuff
 				- Also rights issues might affect this..?
+				- MAYBE it should be a single class object per list with defined properties based on an abstract LIST_DEFINITION class
+					- Can store rights, field names, sql from etc etc, making the actual list route code maybe into a single controller and single route working off keyed names					
+					- Then they can all go in a single folder for all report lists etc and can just crank out more as required over the years
+					- With a single class that contains only the names of the keys for fetching with descriptions and object types etc so can fetch by object type or whatever
 			- One central route with keys would simplify the client end UI certainly
 			- Maybe all WidgetController routes are only for CRUD (and mass change) ops and not for list retrieval?
 				- Would simplify the WidgetController and biz for sure
diff --git a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/WidgetController.cs b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/WidgetController.cs
index 8e2ab4e7..ec02d527 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/Controllers/WidgetController.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/Controllers/WidgetController.cs
@@ -84,31 +84,32 @@ namespace AyaNova.Api.Controllers
         }
 
 
-        /// <summary>
-        ///  Get list for selection / viewing
-        /// 
-        /// Required roles: Any (some roles might have restrictions on exact fields that are returned)
-        /// 
-        /// </summary>
-        /// <param name="pagingOptions">Paging, filtering and sorting options</param>
-        /// <returns>Collection with paging data</returns>
-        [HttpGet("List", Name = nameof(List))]
-        public ActionResult List([FromQuery] ListOptions pagingOptions)
-        {
-            if (serverState.IsClosed)
-                return StatusCode(503, new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.API_CLOSED, null, serverState.Reason));
+//COMMENTED OUT, FOR NOW UNTIL I GET THE FULLY WORKING TEST LIST BELOW THEN COME BACK AND LOOK AT THIS
+        // /// <summary>
+        // ///  Get list for selection / viewing
+        // /// 
+        // /// Required roles: Any (some roles might have restrictions on exact fields that are returned)
+        // /// 
+        // /// </summary>
+        // /// <param name="pagingOptions">Paging, filtering and sorting options</param>
+        // /// <returns>Collection with paging data</returns>
+        // [HttpGet("List", Name = nameof(List))]
+        // public ActionResult List([FromQuery] ListOptions pagingOptions)
+        // {
+        //     if (serverState.IsClosed)
+        //         return StatusCode(503, new ApiErrorResponse(ApiErrorCode.API_CLOSED, null, serverState.Reason));
 
-            if (!ModelState.IsValid)
-                return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(ModelState));
+        //     if (!ModelState.IsValid)
+        //         return BadRequest(new ApiErrorResponse(ModelState));
 
-            //Instantiate the business object handler
-            WidgetBiz biz = WidgetBiz.GetBiz(ct, HttpContext);
+        //     //Instantiate the business object handler
+        //     WidgetBiz biz = WidgetBiz.GetBiz(ct, HttpContext);
 
-            ApiPagedResponse pr = biz.GetList(Url, nameof(List), pagingOptions).Result;
-            return Ok(new ApiOkWithPagingResponse(pr));
-            // string ret= biz.GetList(Url, nameof(List), pagingOptions).Result;
-            // return Ok(ret);
-        }
+        //     ApiPagedResponse pr = biz.GetList(Url, nameof(List), pagingOptions).Result;
+        //     return Ok(new ApiOkWithPagingResponse(pr));
+        //     // string ret= biz.GetList(Url, nameof(List), pagingOptions).Result;
+        //     // return Ok(ret);
+        // }
 
          /// <summary>
         ///  TEST list with relationships
diff --git a/server/AyaNova/biz/WidgetBiz.cs b/server/AyaNova/biz/WidgetBiz.cs
index 3a48cfcf..c4822208 100644
--- a/server/AyaNova/biz/WidgetBiz.cs
+++ b/server/AyaNova/biz/WidgetBiz.cs
@@ -272,135 +272,137 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
 
         //Generic list of widgets
         #region GetList
-        internal async Task<ApiPagedResponse> GetList(IUrlHelper Url, string routeName, ListOptions listOptions)
-        {
+        //COMMENTED OUT, FOR NOW UNTIL I GET THE FULLY WORKING TEST LIST BELOW THEN COME BACK AND LOOK AT THIS
+        // internal async Task<ApiPagedResponse> GetList(IUrlHelper Url, string routeName, ListOptions listOptions)
+        // {
 
 
 
-            //TODO: Get template (MOCKED FOR NOW UNTIL PROOF OF CONCEPT)          
-            var MOCK_WIDGET_DISPLAY_TEMPLATE_JSON = @"
-            {
-                ""full"":[""widgetname"",""widgetserial"",""widgetdollaramount"",""widgetroles"",""widgetstartdate"",""active""],
-                ""mini"":[""widgetname"",""widgetserial""]
-            }
-            ";
+        //     //TODO: Get template (MOCKED FOR NOW UNTIL PROOF OF CONCEPT)          
+        //     var MOCK_WIDGET_DISPLAY_TEMPLATE_JSON = @"
+        //     {
+        //         ""full"":[""widgetname"",""widgetserial"",""widgetdollaramount"",""widgetroles"",""widgetstartdate"",""active""],
+        //         ""mini"":[""widgetname"",""widgetserial""]
+        //     }
+        //     ";
 
-            //BUILD THE QUERY           
+        //     //BUILD THE QUERY           
 
-            //SELECT FRAGMENT COLUMNS FROM TEMPLATE
-            //"select clm,clm,clm"
-            var qSelectColumns = SqlSelectBuilder.Build(AyaObjectFields.WIDGET_KEY, MOCK_WIDGET_DISPLAY_TEMPLATE_JSON, listOptions.Mini);
+        //     //SELECT FRAGMENT COLUMNS FROM TEMPLATE
+        //     //"select clm,clm,clm"
+        //     var qSelectColumns = SqlSelectBuilder.Build(AyaObjectFields.WIDGET_KEY, MOCK_WIDGET_DISPLAY_TEMPLATE_JSON, listOptions.Mini);
 
-            var qFrom = "FROM AWIDGET";
+        //     var qFrom = "FROM AWIDGET";
 
-            //FILTERED?
-            DataFilter TheFilter = null;
-            if (listOptions.DataFilterId > 0)
-            {
-                TheFilter = await ct.DataFilter.FirstOrDefaultAsync(x => x.Id == listOptions.DataFilterId);
-            }
+        //     //FILTERED?
+        //     DataFilter TheFilter = null;
+        //     if (listOptions.DataFilterId > 0)
+        //     {
+        //         TheFilter = await ct.DataFilter.FirstOrDefaultAsync(x => x.Id == listOptions.DataFilterId);
+        //     }
 
-            //WHERE CLAUSE - FILTER 
-            var qWhere = string.Empty;
-            if (listOptions.DataFilterId > 0)
-            {
-                qWhere = SqlFilterCriteriaBuilder.DataFilterToSQLCriteria(TheFilter, AyaObjectFields.ObjectFieldsList(AyaObjectFields.WIDGET_KEY), UserId);
-            }
+        //     //WHERE CLAUSE - FILTER 
+        //     var qWhere = string.Empty;
+        //     if (listOptions.DataFilterId > 0)
+        //     {
+        //         qWhere = SqlFilterCriteriaBuilder.DataFilterToSQLCriteria(TheFilter, AyaObjectFields.ObjectFieldsList(AyaObjectFields.WIDGET_KEY), UserId);
+        //     }
 
-            //ORDER BY CLAUSE - SORT 
-            var qOrderBy = string.Empty;
-            if (listOptions.DataFilterId > 0)
-            {
-                //BUILD ORDER BY AND APPEND IT
-                qOrderBy = SqlFilterOrderByBuilder.DataFilterToSQLOrderBy(TheFilter);
-            }
+        //     //ORDER BY CLAUSE - SORT 
+        //     var qOrderBy = string.Empty;
+        //     if (listOptions.DataFilterId > 0)
+        //     {
+        //         //BUILD ORDER BY AND APPEND IT
+        //         qOrderBy = SqlFilterOrderByBuilder.DataFilterToSQLOrderBy(TheFilter);
+        //     }
 
 
-            //LIMIT AND OFFSET CLAUSE - PAGING
-            listOptions.Offset = listOptions.Offset ?? ListOptions.DefaultOffset;
-            listOptions.Limit = listOptions.Limit ?? ListOptions.DefaultLimit;
-            var qLimitOffset = $"LIMIT {listOptions.Limit} OFFSET {listOptions.Offset}";
+        //     //LIMIT AND OFFSET CLAUSE - PAGING
+        //     listOptions.Offset = listOptions.Offset ?? ListOptions.DefaultOffset;
+        //     listOptions.Limit = listOptions.Limit ?? ListOptions.DefaultLimit;
+        //     var qLimitOffset = $"LIMIT {listOptions.Limit} OFFSET {listOptions.Offset}";
 
-            //PUT IT ALL TOGETHER
-            string qDataQuery = string.Empty;
-            string qTotalRecordsQuery = string.Empty;
-            if (TheFilter != null)
-            {
-                qDataQuery = $"{qSelectColumns} {qFrom} {qWhere} {qOrderBy} {qLimitOffset}";
-                qTotalRecordsQuery = $"SELECT COUNT(*) {qFrom} {qWhere}";
-            }
-            else
-            {
-                qDataQuery = $"{qSelectColumns} {qFrom} {qLimitOffset}";
-                qTotalRecordsQuery = $"SELECT COUNT(*) {qFrom}";
-            }
+        //     //PUT IT ALL TOGETHER
+        //     string qDataQuery = string.Empty;
+        //     string qTotalRecordsQuery = string.Empty;
+        //     if (TheFilter != null)
+        //     {
+        //         qDataQuery = $"{qSelectColumns} {qFrom} {qWhere} {qOrderBy} {qLimitOffset}";
+        //         qTotalRecordsQuery = $"SELECT COUNT(*) {qFrom} {qWhere}";
+        //     }
+        //     else
+        //     {
+        //         qDataQuery = $"{qSelectColumns} {qFrom} {qLimitOffset}";
+        //         qTotalRecordsQuery = $"SELECT COUNT(*) {qFrom}";
+        //     }
 
 
-            //RETURN OBJECTS
-            List<object[]> items = new List<object[]>();
-            long totalRecordCount = 0;
+        //     //RETURN OBJECTS
+        //     List<object[]> items = new List<object[]>();
+        //     long totalRecordCount = 0;
 
-            //RUN THE QUERY
-            using (var command = ct.Database.GetDbConnection().CreateCommand())
-            {
+        //     //RUN THE QUERY
+        //     using (var command = ct.Database.GetDbConnection().CreateCommand())
+        //     {
 
-                ct.Database.OpenConnection();
-                command.CommandText = qDataQuery;
-                using (var dr = command.ExecuteReader())
-                {
-                    while (dr.Read())
-                    {
-                        object[] row = new object[dr.FieldCount];
-                        dr.GetValues(row);
-                        items.Add(row);
-                    }
-                }
+        //         ct.Database.OpenConnection();
+        //         command.CommandText = qDataQuery;
+        //         using (var dr = command.ExecuteReader())
+        //         {
+        //             while (dr.Read())
+        //             {
+        //                 object[] row = new object[dr.FieldCount];
+        //                 dr.GetValues(row);
+        //                 items.Add(row);
+        //             }
+        //         }
 
-                command.CommandText = qTotalRecordsQuery;
-                using (var dr = command.ExecuteReader())
-                {
-                    if (dr.Read())
-                    {
-                        totalRecordCount = dr.GetInt64(0);
-                    }
-                }
-            }
+        //         command.CommandText = qTotalRecordsQuery;
+        //         using (var dr = command.ExecuteReader())
+        //         {
+        //             if (dr.Read())
+        //             {
+        //                 totalRecordCount = dr.GetInt64(0);
+        //             }
+        //         }
+        //     }
 
-            //TODO: Build the return object in a clean format
-            //rows:{[ {},{v:"Green mechanics",id:32},{v:"...notes..."},{v:"42",id:42}, ...thousands more etc.... ]}
+        //     //TODO: Build the return object in a clean format
+        //     //rows:{[ {},{v:"Green mechanics",id:32},{v:"...notes..."},{v:"42",id:42}, ...thousands more etc.... ]}
 
 
 
 
-            //BUILD THE PAGING LINKS PORTION
-            var pageLinks = new PaginationLinkBuilder(Url, routeName, null, listOptions, totalRecordCount).PagingLinksObject();
+        //     //BUILD THE PAGING LINKS PORTION
+        //     var pageLinks = new PaginationLinkBuilder(Url, routeName, null, listOptions, totalRecordCount).PagingLinksObject();
 
-            //BUILD THE COLUMNS RETURN PROPERTY JSON FRAGMENT          
-            string ColumnsJSON = string.Empty;
-            if (listOptions.Mini)
-            {
-                ColumnsJSON = AyaObjectFields.GenerateMINIListColumnsJSON(AyaType.Widget);
-            }
-            else
-            {
-                ColumnsJSON = AyaObjectFields.GenerateListColumnsJSONFromTemplate(AyaType.Widget, AyaObjectFields.WIDGET_KEY, MOCK_WIDGET_DISPLAY_TEMPLATE_JSON);
-            }
+        //     //BUILD THE COLUMNS RETURN PROPERTY JSON FRAGMENT          
+        //     string ColumnsJSON = string.Empty;
+        //     if (listOptions.Mini)
+        //     {
+        //         ColumnsJSON = AyaObjectFields.GenerateMINIListColumnsJSON(AyaType.Widget);
+        //     }
+        //     else
+        //     {
+        //         ColumnsJSON = AyaObjectFields.GenerateListColumnsJSONFromTemplate(AyaType.Widget, AyaObjectFields.WIDGET_KEY, MOCK_WIDGET_DISPLAY_TEMPLATE_JSON);
+        //     }
 
-            //TODO: BUILD THE RETURN LIST OF DATA ITEMS
-            //If mini format all desired columns in order into the single mini return display (and set the only other return field which is ID)
+        //     //TODO: BUILD THE RETURN LIST OF DATA ITEMS
+        //     //If mini format all desired columns in order into the single mini return display (and set the only other return field which is ID)
 
-            //If wide then format the fields in oder chosen (grid sort and filter template has already done that part above)
+        //     //If wide then format the fields in oder chosen (grid sort and filter template has already done that part above)
 
-            //TODO: Genericize the above block of building return when it's working as this code needs to be central and optimized as much as possible
+        //     //TODO: Genericize the above block of building return when it's working as this code needs to be central and optimized as much as possible
 
 
-            ApiPagedResponse pr = new ApiPagedResponse(items, pageLinks, ColumnsJSON);
-            return pr;
-        }
+        //     ApiPagedResponse pr = new ApiPagedResponse(items, pageLinks, ColumnsJSON);
+        //     return pr;
+        // }
 
         #endregion
 
         //TEST WIDGET->USER->EMAILADDRESS multi table list
+        //once this is working can replicate at will
         #region TestGetWidgetUserEmailList
         internal async Task<ApiPagedResponse> TestGetWidgetUserEmailList(IUrlHelper Url, string routeName, ListOptions listOptions)
         {
@@ -411,7 +413,7 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
                 ""mini"":[""widgetname"",""username"",""emailaddress""]
             }
             ";
-            var AyaObjectFieldsKey=AyaObjectFields.TEST_WIDGET_USER_EMAIL_ADDRESS_LIST_KEY;
+            var AyaObjectFieldsKey = AyaObjectFields.TEST_WIDGET_USER_EMAIL_ADDRESS_LIST_KEY;
 
             //BUILD THE QUERY           
             /*
@@ -495,8 +497,11 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
             }
 
             //TODO: Build the return object in a clean format
+            //THIS FORMAT IS INCORRECT I THINK
+            //IT SHOULD BE A FULLER OBJECT WITH THE PROPERTYNAME ?!
+
             //rows:{[ {},{v:"Green mechanics",id:32},{v:"...notes..."},{v:"42",id:42}, ...thousands more etc.... ]}
-            //TODO: BUILD THE RETURN LIST OF DATA ITEMS
+          
             //If mini format all desired columns in order into the single mini return display (and set the only other return field which is ID)
 
             //If wide then format the fields in order chosen (grid sort and filter template has already done that part above)
@@ -521,7 +526,6 @@ namespace AyaNova.Biz
             }
 
 
-
             ApiPagedResponse pr = new ApiPagedResponse(items, pageLinks, ColumnsJSON);
             return pr;
         }