diff --git a/ayanova/devdocs/todo.txt b/ayanova/devdocs/todo.txt
index d24782c3..4b931242 100644
--- a/ayanova/devdocs/todo.txt
+++ b/ayanova/devdocs/todo.txt
@@ -65,6 +65,9 @@ todo: workorders - need to set billing and service address from customers on mig
 bugbug: direct notification errors out
 	user->direct notification
 
+todo: Customer login should show notifications in app screen always just like regular users in the event that a direct notification is sent 
+	i.e. right now it assumes only needs to show it if they have subscription ability but in-app should always show for direct or error or what have you.
+	
 todo: notifications screen add delete all menu item that will just remove all the notifications present
 	Maybe a checkbox and delete selected and select all??  That way can also be a dual useful feature
 	also should delete *from* the client so that it deletes only what it has in view so user doesn't accidentally delete unseen yet to be delivered ones?
@@ -416,20 +419,16 @@ todo: many biz objects are not using new PUT methodology
 
 
 
-CURRENTLY DOING: 	make sure tags is fixed fully after created change
-		
+CURRENTLY DOING: 
 
 
-todo: User duplicate not working, error about optionsobj
-	 Message:_vm.optionsObj is undefined
-	probably need to populate that object as well as main obj on dupe
-	doesn't work on devops either, broken for a while
-	also dupe check on the customer contact object too
+todo: User duplicate locally, improvements, port to customer user form identically
 
 todo: purchase order dupe code at server is a bit sus.
 	it has a todo to set qty to zero but doesn't for some reason so it effectively
 	is affecting inventory on duplicate??
 	Look into it.
+	IDEALLY REPLACE WITH LOCAL COPY LIKE WO
 
 todo: workorder "template" replacement via duplicate requires some changes:
 	V7 notes:
diff --git a/ayanova/src/App.vue b/ayanova/src/App.vue
index fb748afa..f396d0e9 100644
--- a/ayanova/src/App.vue
+++ b/ayanova/src/App.vue
@@ -152,8 +152,8 @@
         >
       </v-toolbar-title>
       <v-spacer></v-spacer>
-
-      <template v-if="$store.state.notifyAvailable">
+      <!-- v-if="$store.state.notifyAvailable" -->
+      <template>
         <v-btn text icon to="/home-notifications" data-cy="notification">
           <v-badge color="deep-purple" :value="newNotificationCount() > 0">
             <template v-slot:badge>
diff --git a/ayanova/src/views/adm-user.vue b/ayanova/src/views/adm-user.vue
index c5ff0c03..c4c17070 100644
--- a/ayanova/src/views/adm-user.vue
+++ b/ayanova/src/views/adm-user.vue
@@ -8,7 +8,6 @@
       <v-form ref="form">
         <v-tabs mobile-breakpoint="100" v-model="tab">
           <v-tab>{{ $ay.t("User") }}</v-tab>
-          <!-- v-if="obj.id != 0 || isUnsavedDuplicate" -->
           <v-tab>{{ $ay.t("UserSettings") }}</v-tab>
 
           <v-tabs-items v-model="tab">
@@ -460,7 +459,7 @@ export default {
           this.obj.name = `${this.obj.name} - ${window.$gz.translation.get(
             "Copy"
           )}`;
-
+          this.password = window.$gz.util.getRandomPassword();
           setDirty = true;
         }
       }
@@ -843,7 +842,6 @@ export default {
           window.$gz.form.setErrorBoxErrors(vm);
         } else {
           vm.optionsObj = res.data;
-          // vm.activeTranslationId = res.data.translationId;
 
           //Update the form status
           window.$gz.form.setFormState({
@@ -868,9 +866,8 @@ export default {
       let vm = this;
       if (vm.canSave) {
         vm.formState.loading = true;
-        let url = null;
 
-        url = `user-option/${vm.obj.id}`;
+        let url = `user-option/${vm.obj.id}`;
 
         //clear any errors vm might be around from previous submit
         window.$gz.form.deleteAllErrorBoxErrors(vm);
diff --git a/ayanova/src/views/cust-user.vue b/ayanova/src/views/cust-user.vue
index de308ab9..9ba2f9af 100644
--- a/ayanova/src/views/cust-user.vue
+++ b/ayanova/src/views/cust-user.vue
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
       <v-form ref="form">
         <v-tabs mobile-breakpoint="100" v-model="tab">
           <v-tab>{{ $ay.t("Contact") }}</v-tab>
-          <v-tab v-if="obj.id != 0">{{ $ay.t("UserSettings") }}</v-tab>
+          <v-tab>{{ $ay.t("UserSettings") }}</v-tab>
 
           <v-tabs-items v-model="tab">
             <v-tab-item class="mt-4 ml-2">
@@ -199,7 +199,7 @@
                 ></v-col>
               </v-row>
             </v-tab-item>
-            <v-tab-item v-if="obj.id != 0" class="mt-4 ml-2">
+            <v-tab-item class="mt-4 ml-2">
               <v-row>
                 <v-col cols="12" sm="6" lg="4" xl="3">
                   <v-select
@@ -419,6 +419,52 @@ export default {
       vm.formState.readOnly = !vm.rights.change;
       window.$gz.eventBus.$on("menu-click", clickHandler);
 
+      // //id 0 means create or duplicate to new
+      // if (vm.$route.params.recordid != 0) {
+      //   //is there already an obj from a prior operation?
+      //   if (this.$route.params.obj) {
+      //     //yes, no need to fetch it
+      //     this.obj = this.$route.params.obj;
+      //     this.optionsObj = this.$route.params.optionsObj;
+      //     vm.formState.loading = false; //here we handle it immediately
+      //   } else {
+      //     await vm.getDataFromApi(vm.$route.params.recordid); //let getdata handle loading
+      //   }
+      // } else {
+      //   vm.password = window.$gz.util.getRandomPassword();
+      //   // vm.login = window.$gz.util.getRandomPassword();
+      //   /* Customer = 3,
+      //   HeadOffice = 4,     */
+      //   if (vm.$route.params.customerid && vm.$route.params.customerid != 0) {
+      //     vm.obj.customerId = vm.$route.params.customerid;
+      //     vm.obj.userType = 3;
+      //   } else if (
+      //     vm.$route.params.headofficeid &&
+      //     vm.$route.params.headofficeid != 0
+      //   ) {
+      //     vm.obj.headOfficeId = vm.$route.params.headofficeid;
+      //     vm.obj.userType = 4;
+      //   } else {
+      //     //no customer or headoffice id, can't proceed
+      //     // navigate backwards
+      //     vm.$router.go(-1);
+      //     //if above turns out to be problematic just go to customers list instead
+      //     // vm.$router.push({
+      //     //   name: "cust-customers"
+      //     // });
+      //   }
+      //   vm.formState.loading = false; //here we handle it immediately
+      // }
+      // //set initial form status
+      // window.$gz.form.setFormState({
+      //   vm: vm,
+      //   dirty: false,
+      //   valid: true
+      // });
+
+      let setDirty = false;
+      let setValid = true;
+
       //id 0 means create or duplicate to new
       if (vm.$route.params.recordid != 0) {
         //is there already an obj from a prior operation?
@@ -426,40 +472,54 @@ export default {
           //yes, no need to fetch it
           this.obj = this.$route.params.obj;
           this.optionsObj = this.$route.params.optionsObj;
-          vm.formState.loading = false; //here we handle it immediately
         } else {
           await vm.getDataFromApi(vm.$route.params.recordid); //let getdata handle loading
         }
       } else {
-        vm.password = window.$gz.util.getRandomPassword();
-        // vm.login = window.$gz.util.getRandomPassword();
-        /* Customer = 3,
-        HeadOffice = 4,     */
-        if (vm.$route.params.customerid && vm.$route.params.customerid != 0) {
-          vm.obj.customerId = vm.$route.params.customerid;
-          vm.obj.userType = 3;
-        } else if (
-          vm.$route.params.headofficeid &&
-          vm.$route.params.headofficeid != 0
-        ) {
-          vm.obj.headOfficeId = vm.$route.params.headofficeid;
-          vm.obj.userType = 4;
+        //Might be a duplicate and contain another record
+        if (this.$route.params.obj) {
+          this.obj = this.$route.params.obj;
+          this.optionsObj = this.$route.params.optionsObj;
+          this.obj.concurrency = undefined;
+          this.optionsObj.concurrency = undefined;
+          this.obj.id = 0;
+          this.optionsObj.id = 0;
+          this.obj.name = `${this.obj.name} - ${window.$gz.translation.get(
+            "Copy"
+          )}`;
+          this.password = window.$gz.util.getRandomPassword();
+          setDirty = true;
         } else {
-          //no customer or headoffice id, can't proceed
-          // navigate backwards
-          vm.$router.go(-1);
-          //if above turns out to be problematic just go to customers list instead
-          // vm.$router.push({
-          //   name: "cust-customers"
-          // });
+          vm.password = window.$gz.util.getRandomPassword();
+
+          /* Customer = 3,
+        HeadOffice = 4,     */
+          if (vm.$route.params.customerid && vm.$route.params.customerid != 0) {
+            vm.obj.customerId = vm.$route.params.customerid;
+            vm.obj.userType = 3;
+          } else if (
+            vm.$route.params.headofficeid &&
+            vm.$route.params.headofficeid != 0
+          ) {
+            vm.obj.headOfficeId = vm.$route.params.headofficeid;
+            vm.obj.userType = 4;
+          } else {
+            //no customer or headoffice id, can't proceed
+            // navigate backwards
+            vm.$router.go(-1);
+            //if above turns out to be problematic just go to customers list instead
+            // vm.$router.push({
+            //   name: "cust-customers"
+            // });
+          }
         }
-        vm.formState.loading = false; //here we handle it immediately
       }
-      //set initial form status
+
       window.$gz.form.setFormState({
         vm: vm,
-        dirty: false,
-        valid: true
+        loading: false,
+        dirty: setDirty,
+        valid: setValid
       });
 
       generateMenu(vm);
@@ -525,12 +585,12 @@ export default {
         phone2: null,
         phone3: null,
         mapUrlTemplate: null,
-        uiColor: null,
+        uiColor: "#000000",
         languageOverride: null,
         timeZoneOverride: null,
-        currencyName: null,
-        hour12: null,
-        translationId: null
+        currencyName: "USD",
+        hour12: true,
+        translationId: 1
       },
       login: null,
       password: null,
@@ -675,17 +735,16 @@ export default {
         window.$gz.form.deleteAllErrorBoxErrors(vm);
 
         //add in password and login if changed
-        let submitObject = vm.obj;
         if (vm.password != null && vm.password != "") {
-          submitObject.password = vm.password;
+          vm.obj.password = vm.password;
         }
         if (vm.login != null && vm.login != "") {
-          submitObject.login = vm.login;
+          vm.obj.login = vm.login;
         }
-        if (submitObject.roles == null) {
-          submitObject.roles = 0;
+        if (vm.obj.roles == null) {
+          vm.obj.roles = 0;
         }
-        let res = await window.$gz.api.upsert(url, submitObject);
+        let res = await window.$gz.api.upsert(url, vm.obj);
         if (res.error) {
           vm.formState.serverError = res.error;
           window.$gz.form.setErrorBoxErrors(vm);
@@ -694,7 +753,8 @@ export default {
           if (res.data.id) {
             //POST - whole new object returned
             vm.obj = res.data;
-            await vm.getUserOptionsDataFromApi();
+            vm.optionsObj.userId = res.data.id;
+            await vm.submitOptions();
             //Change URL to new record
             //NOTE: will not cause a page re-render, almost nothing does unless forced with a KEY property or using router.GO()
 
@@ -764,36 +824,47 @@ export default {
         vm.formState.loading = false;
       }
     },
-    async duplicate() {
-      let vm = this;
-      if (!vm.canDuplicate || vm.$route.params.recordid == 0) {
-        return;
-      }
-      vm.formState.loading = true;
-      let url = API_BASE_URL + "duplicate/" + vm.$route.params.recordid;
-
-      try {
-        window.$gz.form.deleteAllErrorBoxErrors(vm);
-        let res = await window.$gz.api.upsert(url);
-        if (res.error) {
-          vm.formState.serverError = res.error;
-          window.$gz.form.setErrorBoxErrors(vm);
-        } else {
-          //Navigate to new record
-          this.$router.push({
-            name: "adm-user",
-            params: {
-              recordid: res.data.id,
-              obj: res.data // pass data object to new form
-            }
-          });
+    duplicate() {
+      //Navigate to new record
+      this.$router.push({
+        name: "cust-user",
+        params: {
+          recordid: 0,
+          obj: this.obj, // pass data object to new form
+          optionsObj: this.optionsObj
         }
-      } catch (ex) {
-        window.$gz.errorHandler.handleFormError(ex, vm);
-      } finally {
-        vm.formState.loading = false;
-      }
+      });
     },
+    // async duplicate() {
+    //   let vm = this;
+    //   if (!vm.canDuplicate || vm.$route.params.recordid == 0) {
+    //     return;
+    //   }
+    //   vm.formState.loading = true;
+    //   let url = API_BASE_URL + "duplicate/" + vm.$route.params.recordid;
+
+    //   try {
+    //     window.$gz.form.deleteAllErrorBoxErrors(vm);
+    //     let res = await window.$gz.api.upsert(url);
+    //     if (res.error) {
+    //       vm.formState.serverError = res.error;
+    //       window.$gz.form.setErrorBoxErrors(vm);
+    //     } else {
+    //       //Navigate to new record
+    //       this.$router.push({
+    //         name: "adm-user",
+    //         params: {
+    //           recordid: res.data.id,
+    //           obj: res.data // pass data object to new form
+    //         }
+    //       });
+    //     }
+    //   } catch (ex) {
+    //     window.$gz.errorHandler.handleFormError(ex, vm);
+    //   } finally {
+    //     vm.formState.loading = false;
+    //   }
+    // },
     async getUserOptionsDataFromApi() {
       let vm = this;
       vm.formState.loading = true;
@@ -812,7 +883,6 @@ export default {
           window.$gz.form.setErrorBoxErrors(vm);
         } else {
           vm.optionsObj = res.data;
-          // vm.activeTranslationId = res.data.translationId;
 
           //Update the form status
           window.$gz.form.setFormState({
@@ -843,7 +913,7 @@ export default {
         //clear any errors vm might be around from previous submit
         window.$gz.form.deleteAllErrorBoxErrors(vm);
         try {
-          let res = await window.$gz.api.upsert(url, vm.optionsObj);
+          let res = await window.$gz.api.put(url, vm.optionsObj);
 
           vm.formState.loading = false;
           if (res.error) {
@@ -928,12 +998,12 @@ async function clickHandler(menuItem) {
       case "delete":
         m.vm.remove();
         break;
-      case "new":
-        m.vm.$router.push({
-          name: "adm-user",
-          params: { recordid: 0 }
-        });
-        break;
+      // case "new":
+      //   m.vm.$router.push({
+      //     name: "adm-user",
+      //     params: { recordid: 0 }
+      //   });
+      //   break;
       case "duplicate":
         m.vm.duplicate();
         break;
@@ -1054,14 +1124,14 @@ function generateMenu(vm) {
     });
   }
 
-  if (vm.rights.change) {
-    menuOptions.menuItems.push({
-      title: "New",
-      icon: "$ayiPlus",
-      key: FORM_KEY + ":new",
-      vm: vm
-    });
-  }
+  // if (vm.rights.change) {
+  //   menuOptions.menuItems.push({
+  //     title: "New",
+  //     icon: "$ayiPlus",
+  //     key: FORM_KEY + ":new",
+  //     vm: vm
+  //   });
+  // }
 
   if (vm.rights.change && vm.$route.params.recordid != 0) {
     menuOptions.menuItems.push({
diff --git a/ayanova/src/views/cust-users.vue b/ayanova/src/views/cust-users.vue
index ad9410b6..a2b04ef9 100644
--- a/ayanova/src/views/cust-users.vue
+++ b/ayanova/src/views/cust-users.vue
@@ -56,12 +56,12 @@ async function clickHandler(menuItem) {
   let m = window.$gz.menu.parseMenuItem(menuItem);
   if (m.owner == FORM_KEY && !m.disabled) {
     switch (m.key) {
-      case "new":
-        m.vm.$router.push({
-          name: "cust-user",
-          params: { recordid: 0 }
-        });
-        break;
+      // case "new":
+      //   m.vm.$router.push({
+      //     name: "cust-user",
+      //     params: { recordid: 0 }
+      //   });
+      //   break;
       case "extensions":
         let res = await m.vm.$refs.extensions.open(
           m.vm.$refs.gzdatatable.getDataListSelection(window.$gz.type.User)
@@ -140,15 +140,15 @@ function generateMenu(vm) {
     }
   };
 
-  if (vm.rights.change) {
-    menuOptions.menuItems.push({
-      title: "New",
-      icon: "$ayiPlus",
-      surface: true,
-      key: FORM_KEY + ":new",
-      vm: vm
-    });
-  }
+  // if (vm.rights.change) {
+  //   menuOptions.menuItems.push({
+  //     title: "New",
+  //     icon: "$ayiPlus",
+  //     surface: true,
+  //     key: FORM_KEY + ":new",
+  //     vm: vm
+  //   });
+  // }
 
   //REPORTS
   //Report not Print, print is a further option
diff --git a/ayanova/src/views/home-notifications.vue b/ayanova/src/views/home-notifications.vue
index 7e77f2d2..76373c73 100644
--- a/ayanova/src/views/home-notifications.vue
+++ b/ayanova/src/views/home-notifications.vue
@@ -77,9 +77,9 @@ export default {
       vm.formState.ready = true;
     }
   },
-  beforeRouteEnter(to, from, next) {
-    next(window.$gz.store.state.notifyAvailable);
-  },
+  // beforeRouteEnter(to, from, next) {
+  //   next(window.$gz.store.state.notifyAvailable);
+  // },
   beforeDestroy() {
     window.$gz.eventBus.$off("menu-click", clickHandler);
   },