diff --git a/ayanova/src/components/pick-list.vue b/ayanova/src/components/pick-list.vue
index c39b15ea..343d88af 100644
--- a/ayanova/src/components/pick-list.vue
+++ b/ayanova/src/components/pick-list.vue
@@ -57,30 +57,38 @@ todo: option to display icon to open the record selected, (we have the type and
 */
 export default {
   created() {
-    //need to add no selection object if specified
     var vm = this;
-    //console.log("CREATED: calling getList for type ", this.ayaType);
-    if (vm.preFill) {
+    console.log("CREATED:value is ", this.value);
+
+    //need to add no selection object if specified
+    if (vm.noSelectionValid) {
+      window.$gz.form.addNoSelectionItem(vm.searchResults);
+      // debugger;
+      //TODO: this may be needed to force new records to have a zero in their no selection valid fields rather than null
+      // however it could overwrite a valid value maybe so needs further testing
+      //this.$emit("input", 0);
+    }
+
+    //set initial value in control if selected
+    if (vm.value != null && vm.value != 0) {
+      //It has a prior non empty selection that needs to be fetched
+      //note that by default this will just fetch the selected record instead of the prefill list
+      console.log("STUB: created: has value, sb fetched");
+    } else if (vm.preFill) {
+      //no non-empty initial value to select but list specified to pre-fill
       vm.searchUnderway = true;
       vm.getList();
-    } else {
-      if (vm.noSelectionValid) {
-        window.$gz.form.addNoSelectionItem(vm.searchResults);
-        // debugger;
-
-        //TODO: this may be needed to force new records to have a zero in their no selection valid fields rather than null
-        // however it could overwrite a valid value maybe so needs further testing
-        //this.$emit("input", 0);
-      }
-    }
+    } 
   },
   beforeUpdate() {
     //Set the initial list items based on the record items, this only needs to be called once at init
     //Not sure what this is to picklist as it came from tags
-    // if (!this.initialized && this.value.length > 0) {
-    //   this.searchResults = this.value;
-    //   this.initialized = true;
-    // }
+    //console.log("beforeupdate: value is ", this.value);
+    if (!this.initialized && this.value && this.value != 0) {
+      //fetch here
+
+      this.initialized = true;
+    }
   },
 
   data() {
@@ -91,8 +99,8 @@ export default {
       searchEntry: null,
       searchUnderway: false,
       isTagFilter: false,
-      errorIcon: null
-      //,initialized: false
+      errorIcon: null,
+      initialized: false
     };
   },
   props: {
@@ -128,7 +136,7 @@ export default {
       //clear any local errors
       vm.errors = [];
       // console.log("WATCH::SEARCHENTRY TRIGGERED:", val);
-      if (!val || vm.searchUnderway) {
+      if (!val || vm.searchUnderway || !vm.initialized) {
         return;
       }
       if (vm.selected != null) {
@@ -136,7 +144,7 @@ export default {
           return;
         }
       }
-      //console.log("WATCH::SEARCHENTRY doing search now");
+      // console.log("WATCH::SEARCHENTRY doing search now");
       this.doSearch();
     },
     // value(val) {