diff --git a/ayanova/devdocs/todo.txt b/ayanova/devdocs/todo.txt
index 08ff45cb..63c6424e 100644
--- a/ayanova/devdocs/todo.txt
+++ b/ayanova/devdocs/todo.txt
@@ -307,7 +307,6 @@ todo: many biz objects are not using new PUT methodology
 
 CURRENTLY DOING: 
 
-todo: start/stop date biz rules precedence on form at back
 todo: workorder item expense next collection (easing into it)
 
 
@@ -335,6 +334,9 @@ OVERALL
 #####################################################################
 =================== WORKORDER TODO / ON HOLD ========================
 
+
+todo: make sure all rules are mirrored at both ends (like date precedence etc)
+
 TODO: Test address / units select alternate when have units working
 TODO: Sequence field sb hidden by default, most won't want it I'm guessing
 	really need to pin down some default form customization for wo
diff --git a/ayanova/src/components/work-order-item-expenses.vue b/ayanova/src/components/work-order-item-expenses.vue
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..834d78eb
--- /dev/null
+++ b/ayanova/src/components/work-order-item-expenses.vue
@@ -0,0 +1,518 @@
+<template>
+  <div v-if="value != null">
+    <v-row>
+      <v-col cols="12">
+        <v-menu offset-y>
+          <template v-slot:activator="{ on, attrs }">
+            <div class="text-subtitle-1">
+              <v-icon color="primary">$ayiMoneyBillWave</v-icon>
+              {{ $ay.t("WorkOrderItemExpenseList") }}
+              <v-btn v-if="!parentDeleted" large icon v-bind="attrs" v-on="on">
+                <v-icon small color="primary">$ayiEllipsisV</v-icon>
+              </v-btn>
+            </div>
+          </template>
+          <v-list>
+            <v-list-item v-if="canAdd" @click="newItem">
+              <v-list-item-icon>
+                <v-icon>$ayiPlus</v-icon>
+              </v-list-item-icon>
+              <v-list-item-title>{{ $ay.t("New") }}</v-list-item-title>
+            </v-list-item>
+            <v-list-item v-if="canDelete && !isDeleted" @click="deleteItem">
+              <v-list-item-icon>
+                <v-icon>$ayiTrashAlt</v-icon>
+              </v-list-item-icon>
+              <v-list-item-title>{{ $ay.t("SoftDelete") }}</v-list-item-title>
+            </v-list-item>
+            <v-list-item v-if="canDelete && isDeleted" @click="unDeleteItem">
+              <v-list-item-icon>
+                <v-icon>$ayiTrashRestoreAlt</v-icon>
+              </v-list-item-icon>
+              <v-list-item-title>{{ $ay.t("Undelete") }}</v-list-item-title>
+            </v-list-item>
+          </v-list>
+        </v-menu>
+      </v-col>
+
+      <template v-if="showTable">
+        <!-- ################################ SCHEDULED USERS TABLE ############################### -->
+        <v-col cols="12" class="mb-10">
+          <v-data-table
+            :headers="headerList"
+            :items="itemList"
+            item-key="index"
+            v-model="selectedRow"
+            class="elevation-1"
+            disable-pagination
+            disable-filtering
+            disable-sort
+            hide-default-footer
+            data-cy="scheduledUsersTable"
+            dense
+            :item-class="itemRowClasses"
+            @click:row="handleRowClick"
+            :show-select="$vuetify.breakpoint.xs"
+            single-select
+          >
+          </v-data-table>
+        </v-col>
+      </template>
+      <template v-if="activeItemIndex != null">
+        <v-btn
+          v-if="canDelete && isDeleted"
+          large
+          @click="unDeleteItem"
+          color="primary"
+          >{{ $ay.t("Undelete")
+          }}<v-icon right large>$ayiTrashRestoreAlt</v-icon></v-btn
+        >
+
+        <v-col
+          v-if="form().showMe(this, 'WorkOrderItemScheduledUserStartDate')"
+          cols="12"
+          sm="6"
+          lg="4"
+          xl="3"
+        >
+          <gz-date-time-picker
+            :label="$ay.t('WorkOrderItemScheduledUserStartDate')"
+            v-model="
+              value.items[activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[activeItemIndex]
+                .startDate
+            "
+            :readonly="formState.readOnly"
+            :disabled="isDeleted"
+            :ref="
+              `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].startDate`
+            "
+            data-cy="startDate"
+            :error-messages="
+              form().serverErrors(
+                this,
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].startDate`
+              )
+            "
+            @input="
+              fieldValueChanged(
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].startDate`
+              )
+            "
+          ></gz-date-time-picker>
+        </v-col>
+
+        <v-col
+          v-if="form().showMe(this, 'WorkOrderItemScheduledUserStopDate')"
+          cols="12"
+          sm="6"
+          lg="4"
+          xl="3"
+        >
+          <gz-date-time-picker
+            :label="$ay.t('WorkOrderItemScheduledUserStopDate')"
+            v-model="
+              value.items[activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[activeItemIndex]
+                .stopDate
+            "
+            :readonly="formState.readOnly"
+            :disabled="isDeleted"
+            :ref="
+              `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].stopDate`
+            "
+            data-cy="stopDate"
+            :rules="[
+              form().datePrecedence(
+                this,
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].startDate`,
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].stopDate`
+              )
+            ]"
+            :error-messages="
+              form().serverErrors(
+                this,
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].stopDate`
+              )
+            "
+            @input="
+              fieldValueChanged(
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].stopDate`
+              )
+            "
+          ></gz-date-time-picker>
+        </v-col>
+
+        <v-col
+          v-if="
+            form().showMe(this, 'WorkOrderItemScheduledUserEstimatedQuantity')
+          "
+          cols="12"
+          sm="6"
+          lg="4"
+          xl="3"
+        >
+          <gz-decimal
+            v-model="
+              value.items[activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[activeItemIndex]
+                .estimatedQuantity
+            "
+            :readonly="formState.readOnly || isDeleted"
+            :disabled="isDeleted"
+            :label="$ay.t('WorkOrderItemScheduledUserEstimatedQuantity')"
+            :ref="
+              `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].estimatedQuantity`
+            "
+            data-cy="scheduledUsers.EstimatedQuantity"
+            :error-messages="
+              form().serverErrors(
+                this,
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].estimatedQuantity`
+              )
+            "
+            :rules="[
+              form().decimalValid(
+                this,
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].estimatedQuantity`
+              ),
+              form().required(
+                this,
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].estimatedQuantity`
+              )
+            ]"
+            @input="
+              fieldValueChanged(`Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[
+              ${activeItemIndex}
+            ].estimatedQuantity`)
+            "
+          ></gz-decimal>
+        </v-col>
+
+        <v-col
+          v-if="form().showMe(this, 'WorkOrderItemScheduledUserUserID')"
+          cols="12"
+          sm="6"
+          lg="4"
+          xl="3"
+        >
+          <gz-pick-list
+            :aya-type="$ay.ayt().User"
+            variant="tech"
+            :show-edit-icon="true"
+            v-model="
+              value.items[activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[activeItemIndex]
+                .userId
+            "
+            :readonly="formState.readOnly || isDeleted"
+            :disabled="isDeleted"
+            :label="$ay.t('WorkOrderItemScheduledUserUserID')"
+            :ref="
+              `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].userId`
+            "
+            data-cy="scheduledUsers.userid"
+            :error-messages="
+              form().serverErrors(
+                this,
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].userId`
+              )
+            "
+            @input="
+              fieldValueChanged(
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].userId`
+              )
+            "
+            @update:name="userChange"
+          ></gz-pick-list>
+        </v-col>
+
+        <v-col
+          v-if="form().showMe(this, 'WorkOrderItemScheduledUserServiceRateID')"
+          cols="12"
+          sm="6"
+          lg="4"
+          xl="3"
+        >
+          <gz-pick-list
+            :aya-type="$ay.ayt().ServiceRate"
+            :show-edit-icon="true"
+            v-model="
+              value.items[activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[activeItemIndex]
+                .serviceRateId
+            "
+            :readonly="formState.readOnly || isDeleted"
+            :disabled="isDeleted"
+            :label="$ay.t('WorkOrderItemScheduledUserServiceRateID')"
+            :ref="
+              `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].serviceRateId`
+            "
+            data-cy="scheduledUsers.serviceRateId"
+            :error-messages="
+              form().serverErrors(
+                this,
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].serviceRateId`
+              )
+            "
+            @input="
+              fieldValueChanged(
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].serviceRateId`
+              )
+            "
+            @update:name="rateChange"
+          ></gz-pick-list>
+        </v-col>
+      </template>
+    </v-row>
+  </div>
+</template>
+<script>
+/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+/*  XXXeslint-disable    */
+////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
+/*
+
+*/
+export default {
+  created() {
+    this.setDefaultView();
+  },
+  data() {
+    return {
+      activeItemIndex: null,
+      selectedRow: []
+    };
+  },
+  props: {
+    value: {
+      default: null,
+      type: Object
+    },
+    pvm: {
+      default: null,
+      type: Object
+    },
+    activeWoItemIndex: {
+      default: null,
+      type: Number
+    }
+  },
+  watch: {
+    activeWoItemIndex(val, oldVal) {
+      if (val != oldVal) {
+        this.setDefaultView();
+      }
+    }
+  },
+  methods: {
+    userChange(newName) {
+      this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[
+        this.activeItemIndex
+      ].userViz = newName;
+    },
+    rateChange(newName) {
+      this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[
+        this.activeItemIndex
+      ].serviceRateViz = newName;
+    },
+    newItem() {
+      let newIndex = this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers
+        .length;
+
+      this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers.push({
+        id: 0,
+        concurrency: 0,
+        userId: null,
+        estimatedQuantity: 0,
+        startDate: null,
+        stopDate: null,
+        serviceRateId: null,
+        isDirty: true,
+        workOrderItemId: this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].id,
+        uid: Date.now() //used for error tracking / display
+      });
+      this.$emit("change");
+      this.selectedRow = [{ index: newIndex }];
+      this.activeItemIndex = newIndex;
+    },
+    unDeleteItem() {
+      this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[
+        this.activeItemIndex
+      ].deleted = false;
+      this.setDefaultView();
+    },
+    deleteItem() {
+      this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[
+        this.activeItemIndex
+      ].deleted = true;
+      this.setDefaultView();
+      this.$emit("change");
+    },
+    setDefaultView: function() {
+      //if only one record left then display it otherwise just let the datatable show what the user can click on
+      if (this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers.length == 1) {
+        this.selectedRow = [{ index: 0 }];
+        this.activeItemIndex = 0;
+      } else {
+        this.selectedRow = [];
+        this.activeItemIndex = null; //select nothing in essence resetting a child selects and this one too clearing form
+      }
+    },
+    handleRowClick: function(item) {
+      this.activeItemIndex = item.index;
+      this.selectedRow = [{ index: item.index }];
+    },
+    form() {
+      return window.$gz.form;
+    },
+    fieldValueChanged(ref) {
+      if (!this.formState.loading && !this.formState.readonly) {
+        //flag this record dirty so it gets picked up by save
+        this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[
+          this.activeItemIndex
+        ].isDirty = true;
+        window.$gz.form.fieldValueChanged(this.pvm, ref);
+
+        // //set viz if applicable
+        // if(ref==""){
+        //    let selectedPartWarehouse = vm.$refs.partWarehouseId.getFullSelectionValue();
+        // }
+      }
+    },
+    itemRowClasses: function(item) {
+      let ret = "";
+      const isDeleted =
+        this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[item.index]
+          .deleted === true;
+
+      const hasError = this.form().childRowHasError(
+        this,
+        `Items[${this.activeWoItemIndex}].ScheduledUsers[${item.index}].`
+      );
+
+      if (isDeleted) {
+        ret += this.form().tableRowDeletedClass();
+      }
+      if (hasError) {
+        ret += this.form().tableRowErrorClass();
+      }
+      return ret;
+    }
+  },
+  computed: {
+    isDeleted: function() {
+      if (
+        this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[
+          this.activeItemIndex
+        ] == null
+      ) {
+        this.setDefaultView();
+        return true;
+      }
+      return (
+        this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers[
+          this.activeItemIndex
+        ].deleted === true
+      );
+    },
+    parentDeleted: function() {
+      return this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].deleted === true;
+    },
+
+    headerList: function() {
+      /*
+  If the column is a text, left-align it
+  If the column is a number or number + unit, (or date) right-align it (like excel)
+  */
+      let headers = [];
+
+      if (this.form().showMe(this, "WorkOrderItemScheduledUserStartDate")) {
+        headers.push({
+          text: this.$ay.t("WorkOrderItemScheduledUserStartDate"),
+          align: "right",
+          value: "startDate"
+        });
+      }
+
+      if (this.form().showMe(this, "WorkOrderItemScheduledUserStopDate")) {
+        headers.push({
+          text: this.$ay.t("WorkOrderItemScheduledUserStopDate"),
+          align: "right",
+          value: "stopDate"
+        });
+      }
+
+      if (
+        this.form().showMe(this, "WorkOrderItemScheduledUserEstimatedQuantity")
+      ) {
+        headers.push({
+          text: this.$ay.t("WorkOrderItemScheduledUserEstimatedQuantity"),
+          align: "right",
+          value: "estimatedQuantity"
+        });
+      }
+
+      if (this.form().showMe(this, "WorkOrderItemScheduledUserUserID")) {
+        headers.push({
+          text: this.$ay.t("WorkOrderItemScheduledUserUserID"),
+          align: "left",
+          value: "userViz"
+        });
+      }
+
+      if (this.form().showMe(this, "WorkOrderItemScheduledUserServiceRateID")) {
+        headers.push({
+          text: this.$ay.t("WorkOrderItemScheduledUserServiceRateID"),
+          align: "left",
+          value: "serviceRateViz"
+        });
+      }
+
+      return headers;
+    },
+    itemList: function() {
+      return this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers.map(
+        (x, i) => {
+          return {
+            index: i,
+            id: x.id,
+            startDate: window.$gz.locale.utcDateToShortDateAndTimeLocalized(
+              x.startDate,
+              this.pvm.timeZoneName,
+              this.pvm.languageName,
+              this.pvm.hour12
+            ),
+            stopDate: window.$gz.locale.utcDateToShortDateAndTimeLocalized(
+              x.stopDate,
+              this.pvm.timeZoneName,
+              this.pvm.languageName,
+              this.pvm.hour12
+            ),
+            estimatedQuantity: window.$gz.locale.decimalLocalized(
+              x.estimatedQuantity,
+              this.pvm.languageName
+            ),
+            userViz: x.userViz,
+            serviceRateViz: x.serviceRateViz
+          };
+        }
+      );
+    },
+    formState: function() {
+      return this.pvm.formState;
+    },
+    formCustomTemplateKey: function() {
+      return this.pvm.formCustomTemplateKey;
+    },
+    showTable: function() {
+      return this.value.items[this.activeWoItemIndex].scheduledUsers.length > 1;
+    },
+    canAdd: function() {
+      return this.pvm.rights.change && this.pvm.subRights.scheduledUsers.create;
+    },
+    canDelete: function() {
+      return (
+        this.activeItemIndex != null &&
+        this.pvm.rights.change &&
+        this.pvm.subRights.scheduledUsers.delete
+      );
+    }
+  }
+};
+</script>
diff --git a/ayanova/src/components/work-order-item-scheduled-users.vue b/ayanova/src/components/work-order-item-scheduled-users.vue
index 73c06338..142e9d78 100644
--- a/ayanova/src/components/work-order-item-scheduled-users.vue
+++ b/ayanova/src/components/work-order-item-scheduled-users.vue
@@ -120,6 +120,13 @@
               `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].stopDate`
             "
             data-cy="stopDate"
+            :rules="[
+              form().datePrecedence(
+                this,
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].startDate`,
+                `Items[${activeWoItemIndex}].scheduledUsers[${activeItemIndex}].stopDate`
+              )
+            ]"
             :error-messages="
               form().serverErrors(
                 this,
diff --git a/ayanova/src/components/work-order-items.vue b/ayanova/src/components/work-order-items.vue
index c43edc86..f9ccc679 100644
--- a/ayanova/src/components/work-order-items.vue
+++ b/ayanova/src/components/work-order-items.vue
@@ -361,6 +361,19 @@
             @change="$emit('change')"
           />
         </v-col>
+         <v-col cols="12">
+          <GzWoItemScheduledUsers
+            v-if="
+              pvm.subRights.scheduledUsers.visible &&
+                form().showMe(this, 'WorkOrderItemScheduledUserList')
+            "
+            v-model="value"
+            :pvm="pvm"
+            :active-wo-item-index="activeItemIndex"
+            data-cy="woItemScheduledUsers"
+            @change="$emit('change')"
+          />
+        </v-col>
       </template>
     </v-row>
   </div>
@@ -370,10 +383,12 @@
 /*  XXXeslint-disable    */
 ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
 import GzWoItemScheduledUsers from "../components/work-order-item-scheduled-users.vue";
+import GzWoItemExpenses from "../components/work-order-item-expenses.vue";
 
 export default {
   components: {
-    GzWoItemScheduledUsers
+    GzWoItemScheduledUsers,
+    GzWoItemExpenses
   },
   created() {
     this.setDefaultView();